Posted on 07/02/2004 12:58:32 AM PDT by Jaysun
"We Americans need to face the fact that we will always be loathed and hated by those who cannot possibly measure up to us."
I disagree in part because they CAN measure up to us if they're willing to make the necessary changes. That's what makes it so sad and frustrating. Japan measures up to us to a some degree, at least economically; and they could militarily if they wanted to, but for better or worse they trust us to protect them.
America is a nation not only of laws and ideals but of IDEAS, not of ubermen who have some sort of special DNA that allows us to do things no-one else can. ANY nation that pursues this same combination of ideals and ideas will meet with the very same type and degree of success.
And that's what pisses me off about France & Co. If they really couldn't help it, it would be unfair for us to be angry with them.
'648 whatever, how many of our enemies have been killed?That's the number I'm interested in.'
Quite difficult to find out. Most reliable looking figures I can find are from infoshout - a leftist source but the methodolgy of the facts they put out look like we can take them at face value.
Anyway: 4,895 to 6,370 Iraqi MILITARY deaths, and somewhere between 9451 and 11333 (the lowest and highest possible numbers for the counting methods used) civillian deaths.
Britain has lost 59 men by the way.
None of these figures include survived injuries. One of the consequences of improvements in medicine and body armour is that people are surviving traumatic episodes that would previously be fatal. The downside of this is that we will see proportionaly more seriously, long term wounded than has been the case in earlier wars. Apparently 4000 US tropps have been taken from Irag for treatment during the course of the war (according the Chanel 4 news in the UK) though I am suspicious of this figure as that would make the casualty figure around 3% which intuitivley sounds on the high side.
Good find and good reporting. Something the lame stream media just doesn't understand anymore. If it is NOT on their agenda it doesn't get reported. The ONLY conclusion that can be drawn from the losses we have taken in Iraq is "MIRACULOUS". Any student in the history of warfare, and any veteran of any war will agree.
check a police report in a city with a military base
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"And that's what pisses me off about France & Co. If they really couldn't help it, it would be unfair for us to be angry with them."
Those people don't eat their beef rare, they gush it down "black and blue", seared about 5 seconds per side. That is as good a mark of degeneracy as any, oops, IMO.
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