Posted on 07/01/2004 11:06:42 AM PDT by NavySEAL F-16
There are many in Iraq, that are not Muslims.
What do you call those that practise the tenets of Islam, but do not follow the terrorists?
Bad Muslims, or hypocrites. Practicing Islam, as Mohammed practiced and defined it, IS terrorism.
As you say, 'virtually all', that's not all, or, in this case, probably not even the majority. Only if ALL, the Catholics, including the Pope, were involved in the conflict, and only if Buddhists, were the only ones targeted. This is not the case currently.
I know. He (McVeigh) was a political sympathiser, not a religious one. Nevertheless, the ties are there.
I agree. The Islamics are much more about political power than faith. Like Hitler, they just give lip service to the faith thing in order to suck ignorant souls into their traps.
Even though they are hypocrites and bad Muslims, you agree that they are still Muslims. This shows me that it is a faction of Islam, as you say, the fanatics, that are the terrorists. Which, as I have been saying, is just a group that are using their religion as a weapon.
I don't believe that ties make it a religious war. The war is using a part of the religions' tenets as a weapon, especially when used with easily swayed zealots.
There are 3 alternatives for these people. Victory, conversion to a different faith, or death.
I believe that to be correct.
I don't believe that all the Muslims think the same.
You are failing to recognize the political component of Islam, mush as we failed to recognize the religious component of communism. The religion is not incidental, it is central.
I don't either. But that doesn't change what the Koran teaches. If anyone wants to be a serious Muslim, they are asking to become a terrorist.
He is right on about jihad being a religious war. They hate all places and people not Islamic, i.e. Western Civ--they even hate non fundamentalist Islamics. Since we are the leader of the West, they particularly hate us and makes us their No.1 target.
As Lehman points out, most in our govt beaurocracies don't believe it either, so they keep letting these people in, don't have true airport security, etc.
vaudine
Thank you for the outstanding and logical explanation as to why I should not make any assumptions about young Arab males. Truly enlightening!
I don't believe that this makes it a religious war, as their are many Muslims living in countries that do not have an Islamic political component. We are not at war with any one country, whether a Muslim country, or not.
We are at the culmination of a centuries-long war: a war between Western Civilization and the forces of barbarism. Only now the barbarians have bombs, grenades, and weapons of mass destruction. When your civilization is at stake, the gloves should come off.
Trying to "understand" the guy who is preparing to smuggle a nuke into Long Beach harbor is an exercise in futility. You kill him and prevent the event. Enough analysis; more action, please.
--Boris
I know many that consider themselves to be serious Muslims, yet have no part in, nor want any part in, terrorism. If you are not a Muslim yourself, and do not consider these people to be serious Muslims, then it's obvious to me, that all of this is very dependent upon an individuals interpretation of their religious tenets.
I do not believe that all Muslims are jihadists.
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