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To: Light Speed
If there is to be a wave, there must be something to wave!

Bizarre that anyone still, er, waves this around. There is a limit to which light is a wave. The first such limit was noticed in the Michelson-Morely experiments, in which light absolutely refused to act like a wave propagating through a static medium. (One's motion through space should make a difference when measuring the speed of light in such a case and it does not.)

Einstein in 1905 observed that light sometimes still acts more like a beam of little thrown rocks than a wave. It became necessary to resurrect the particle theory with the concept of the photon. It was further observed in various diffraction-grate experiments with one-at-a-time photons that light will act as a wave (propagating on a broad front and forming interference fringes) in some cases and a stream of particles in others depending entirely upon whether one is keeping track of which path the photon takes.

One ignores a lot to still be telling people that light is ripples in some kind of ether.

173 posted on 07/01/2004 6:00:10 AM PDT by VadeRetro
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To: VadeRetro
Einstein in 1905 observed that light sometimes still acts more like a beam of little thrown rocks than a wave.

But I should mention that the Michelson-Morely experiment had already proved that you can't just use particle theory, either. You don't get the Newtonian addition-of-velocities predicted by particle theory any more than you get the relative-to-the-medium velocity predicted by waves-in-ether theory. You don't get any difference at all no matter how you're moving or where you aim the light beam.

It was the opening for various theories leading in a few decades to Special Relativity.

178 posted on 07/01/2004 6:09:37 AM PDT by VadeRetro
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To: VadeRetro
If there is to be a wave, there must be something to wave!

It's just a mathematical method. Also, since it involves imaginary numbers there may be no physical correlation. Might be that nothing is waving except a century of PhD sheepskins.

206 posted on 07/01/2004 7:53:13 AM PDT by RightWhale (Destroy the dark; restore the light)
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To: VadeRetro
Hello Vade

My personal interest is to invite options regarding constructs and theories.
for me...their is no..*Have arrived...absolute conclusion drawn..close book.

Article excerpt:

FAR APART, TWO PARTICLES RESPOND FASTER THAN LIGHT by Malcolm W. Browne
(From the New York Times Science Section, Tuesday, July 22, 1997)

It was as if some ghostly bridge across the city of Geneva had permitted two photons of light nearly seven miles apart to respond simultaneously to a stimulus applied to just one of them.

The twin-photon experiment by Dr. Nicolas Gisin of the University of Geneva and his colleagues last month was the most spectacular demonstration yet of the mysterious long-range connections that exist between quantum events, connections created from nothing at all, which in theory can reach from one end of the universe to the other.

In essence, Dr. Gisin sent pairs of photons in opposite directions to villages north and south of Geneva along optical fibers of the kind used to transmit telephone calls. Reaching the ends of these fibers, the two photons were forced to make random choices between alternative, equally possible pathways.

Since there was no way for the photons to communicate with each other, "classical" physics would predict that their independent choices would bear no relationship to each other. But when the paths of the two photons were properly adjusted and the results compared, the independent decisions
by the paired photons always matched, even though there was no physical way for them to communicate with each other.

Albert Einstein sneered [at] the very possibility of such a thing, calling it "spooky action at a distance." Scientists still (somewhat shamefacedly) speak of the "magic" of "quantum weirdness." And yet all experiments in recent years have shown that Einstein was wrong and that action at a distance is real."

One of the leading experimentalists in quantum optics, Dr. Raymond P. Chiao of the U. of California, Berkeley, hailed the Geneva experiment as "wonderful."

But an underlying enigma of quantum mechanics remains unfathomed.

The connections that persist between distant but entangled particles are "one of the deep mysteries of quantum mechanics," Dr. Chiao said in an interview. "These connections are a fact of nature proven by experiments, but to try to explain them philosophically is very difficult," he said.

Quantum events obey the laws of quantum theory, which governs the behavior of minute objects like atoms and subatomic particles, including photons of light. By contrast with the laws of "classical" physics (which apply to the relatively large objects of the everyday world), quantum physics often exhibits behavior that seems impossible.

One of the weird aspects of quantum mechanics is that something can simultaneously exist and not exist; if a particle is capable of moving along several different paths, or existing in several different states, the uncertainty principle of quantum mechanics allows it to travel along all paths and exist in all possible states simultaneously. However, if the particle happens to be measured by some means, its path or state is no longer uncertain. The simple act of measurement instantly forces it into just one path or state.

Physicists call this a "collapse of the wave function." The amazing thing is that if just one particle in an entangled pair is measured, the wave function of both particles collapses into a definite state that is the same for both partners, even separated by great distances.

Comment.

The Term **Quantum jump is a new play word/fill in the blank word for outcomes.
Clearly....quantum dynamics is a field of study with much comment that it is percived....yet not fully understood.
A field of endeavour with more suprises for sure : )

Specialists in astrophysics and all those big names..have noted that *Comets begin to light up when passing the Orbital quadrants of Jupiter and Saturn.
Both are kicking out electricity and other particle flow.
Is *Quantum jump occuirng here?..I think so.
SOHO captured the Sun burping Plasma off repeatedly toward Comet 2002v1 Neat..at 0.0999 AU. on perihelion.

Shift:

Cassini-Huygens
Instruments
RPWS: Radio and Plasma Wave Science
The major functions of the Radio and Plasma Wave Science (RWPS) instrument are to measure the electric and magnetic fields and electron density and temperature in the interplanetary medium and planetary magnetospheres.

The RPWS instrument will be used to investigate electric and magnetic waves in space plasma at Saturn. Plasma is distributed by the solar wind, and it is also contained by the magnetic fields (the magnetospheres) of bodies such as Saturn and Titan. The Cassini RPWS instrument will measure the AC electric and magnetic fields in the interplanetary medium and planetary magnetospheres and will directly measure the electron density and temperature of the plasma in the vicinity of the spacecraft.

RPWS will study the configuration of Saturn's magnetic field and its relationship to Saturn Kilometric Radiation (SKR), as well as monitoring and mapping Saturn's ionosphere, plasma, and lightning from Saturn's atmosphere.

RPWS Scientific Objectives

To study the configuration of Saturn’s magnetic field and its relationship to Saturn Kilometric Radiation (SKR)
To monitor and map the sources of SKR
To study daily variations in Saturn’s ionosphere and search for outflowing plasma in the magnetic cusp region
To study radio signals from lightning in Saturn’s atmosphere
To investigate Saturn Electric Discharges (SED)
To determine the current systems in Saturn’s magnetosphere and study the composition, sources, and sinks of magnetospheric plasma
To investigate the dynamics of the magnetosphere with the solar wind, satellites, and rings
To study the rings as a source of magnetospheric plasma
To look for plasma waves associated with ring spoke phenomena
To determine the dust and meteoroid distributions throughout the Saturnian system and interplanetary space
To study waves and turbulence generated by the interaction of charged dust grains with the magnetospheric plasma
To investigate the interactions of the icy satellites and the ring systems
To measure electron density and temperature in the vicinity of Titan
To study the ionisation of Titan’s upper atmosphere and ionosphere and the interactions of the atmosphere and exosphere with the surrounding plasma
To investigate the production, transport, and loss of plasma from Titan’s upper atmosphere and ionosphere
To search for radio signals from lightning in Titan’s atmosphere, a possible source for atmospheric chemistry
To study the interaction of Titan with the solar wind and magnetospheric plasma
To study Titan’s vast hydrogen torus as a source of magnetospheric plasma
To study Titan’s induced magnetosphere

229 posted on 07/01/2004 11:54:06 AM PDT by Light Speed
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