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Registered gun owners to bite the bullet
Pretoria News ^ | Jun. 30, 2004 | Sheena Adams

Posted on 06/30/2004 7:20:19 AM PDT by neverdem

The government is going ahead with stringent new firearm laws which come into effect tomorrow because it believes registered owners are partly responsible for the reported loss of nearly 8 000 guns this year.

Safety and Security Minister Charles Nqakula told Parliament yesterday that it was a "fallacy" to think that registered owners committed no infringements regarding gun control.

"Many of the illegal firearms in circulation were owned legally once upon a time. From January to May this year, registered gun-owners in South Africa reported 7 993 firearms they lost or that were stolen from them. This is in addition to the 85 634 lost or stolen since 2000," he said during his budget debate in the National Council of Provinces.

Nqakula said stricter gun-control laws did not undermine the right of people to own firearms but protected the public from firearm abuse.

"Every peace-loving and law-abiding citizen should support such measures," he said.

The government has been taken to court over the new regulations by the South African Gun Owners' Association which launched an urgent application last Friday for an interdict to set aside the Firearms Control Act.

DA MP Darryl Worth yesterday appealed to Nqakula to deal with the confusion surrounding the implementation of the Act and asked how staff were expected to deal with the current backlog of about 60 000 applications for licences. He estimated that a further two million legal firearms had to be registered.

Nqakula said his department had budgeted more than R63-million for the implementation of the Act.

He also said the money would be used to service the 315 firearm registration centres that had been set up (22 of them in Gauteng).

Nqakula rejected criticisms from the DA that the new laws had not been communicated to stakeholders properly, saying the regulations had been "part of the public discourse since 1999".

He said: "You can't blame it on us if there are people out there who are ignorant. It is their responsibility to learn and understand what is happening in South Africa."

Nqakula also took a swipe at journalists who he said had written articles saying that his department had been trying to "impose" the new gun law on people as July 1 drew near. "What is unfortunate is that there are those whose responsibility it is to communicate to the public who are not communicating properly. How can any journalist - I was a journalist so I know how journalism works - do a story which completely exposes their ignorance?"

Nqakula said journalists who did no research were not worth the ink they used to write their reports.

Nqakula also said that the police force would be boosted by about 8 700 entry-level constables with more than 1 900 going to Gauteng.

The police will launch a crime prevention programme in the 63 areas of South Africa identified as having the most contact crimes, Nqakula said. These areas include Mamelodi.

Over the next six years the Defence Force will be replaced by the police on the borders.

During this financial year an additional 5 130 police officers would be assigned to border duty. - Political Bureau.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; guncontrol; gunregistration; southafrica; southafrice
Sounds like blaming the victim.
1 posted on 06/30/2004 7:20:23 AM PDT by neverdem
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To: *bang_list

BANG


2 posted on 06/30/2004 7:21:08 AM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: neverdem

Hmm.. blaming the victims of theft for tehtheft.
As if that would stop theft from occuring.


3 posted on 06/30/2004 7:24:01 AM PDT by Darksheare (I boil trolls in their skins and devour their souls because I'm COMPASSIONATE!)
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To: neverdem
Wouldn't it be better to save it for something useful?

After all, how helpful is a gnawed-on bullet going to be when you need to defend yourself?

DEEP THOUGHTS.

4 posted on 06/30/2004 7:24:28 AM PDT by The Scourge of Yazid ("You either ride with us, or collide with us!" (The Secrets of War.)
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To: neverdem
If I lived in South Africa and was white - I would report every gun I owned as stolen.

One day, in the near future, the SA government is going to use these lists to take the guns from certain people away before the "land/wealth distribution plans" begin...
5 posted on 06/30/2004 7:26:08 AM PDT by 2banana (They want to die for Islam and we want to kill them)
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To: neverdem
because it believes registered owners are partly responsible for the reported loss of nearly 8 000 guns this year.

Define..."loss". You mean stolen? So it's the owners fault?

I guess rape happens because the vitim was dress sexy,too?

6 posted on 06/30/2004 7:26:30 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: neverdem

Its a no brainer that mandatory registration and increased gun control leads to increase in gun "thefts and losses".


7 posted on 06/30/2004 7:27:01 AM PDT by Rebelbase ( aka Gassybrowneyedbum)
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To: 2banana
"One day, in the near future, the SA USA government is going to use these lists to take the guns from certain people away before the "land/wealth distribution plans" begin... "
8 posted on 06/30/2004 7:28:52 AM PDT by Rebelbase ( aka Gassybrowneyedbum)
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To: neverdem

Might be a good market, selling guns to South Africans.


9 posted on 06/30/2004 7:29:29 AM PDT by ItsTheMediaStupid
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To: neverdem
This guy really did bite the bullet. Man Shot in Face, Spits Out Bullet
10 posted on 06/30/2004 7:34:37 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (It is not Bush's fault... it is the media's fault!)
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To: neverdem
Nqakula said journalists who did no research were not worth the ink they used to write their reports.

Agreed. Looks like we're facing a worldwide plague...

11 posted on 06/30/2004 7:36:00 AM PDT by TXnMA (Glad to be away from MA and back home -- out in the boonies in God's Country!)
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To: TXnMA

From my cold dead hands...


12 posted on 06/30/2004 7:37:45 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (STAGMIRE !)
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To: neverdem

"Shucks, Mister Policeman, they took everything except this here old shovel...."


13 posted on 06/30/2004 7:49:31 AM PDT by FreedomFarmer (No, this is Shineola.)
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To: Rebelbase

bttt


14 posted on 06/30/2004 7:59:13 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: 2banana
SA government is going to use these lists to take the guns from certain people away before the "land/wealth distribution plans" begin...

YEP, and like Stalin, the communists will begin killing their most valuable citizens, ANOTHER commie genocide to add to the list.

15 posted on 06/30/2004 8:05:06 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Socialism has exclusive rights to genocide, they hold the patent.)
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To: 2banana
If I lived in South Africa … I would report every gun I owned as stolen.

“the regulations had been "part of the public discourse since 1999".

I would bet that’s exactly what is happening, they’ve seen the future since 1999 and have been preparing for it.

16 posted on 06/30/2004 9:45:52 AM PDT by RJL
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To: neverdem

similar to a story from afghanistan last year about using registration lists to confiscate guns from people i the name of "public safety."


17 posted on 06/30/2004 11:11:24 AM PDT by fittstonian
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To: Arrowhead1952

Thanks for the link - some stories!


18 posted on 06/30/2004 2:15:57 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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