[OrthodoxPresbyterian]

I know many homosexuals in long unions. Studies show that lesbians have longer term committed relations on average than heterosexuals. No amount of scripture reading can change a homosexual.

I'll grant that Lesbianism (which in many if not most instances, is the result of repeated abuses by dishonorable Males -- Childhood Molestation, Rape and "Date Rape", and Relationship Betrayal being three MAJOR contributing factors to Female disillusionment with the Male Sex, and resultant attempts to satisfy the Female need for companionship and socialization via Lesbianistic couplings with the Same Sex) has some clinical record of long-term, monogamous attachments.

This is not entirely surprising -- Females being more inherently-social than Men, and Lesbianism being largely the result of Male Betrayals, it is simply understandable (though not morally excusable) that some Females who have suffered repeated, egregious Betrayals by the Male Sex should seek long-term, monogamous attachments via Lesbianistic couplings with the Same Sex to satisfy the Female need for companionship and socialization.

However, this is not the IDEAL. Lesbianism is ultimately the product of a "Bomb-Shelter Mentality" -- a sexual and psychological defense against the depradations of dishonorable Males.

The IDEAL is sexual and psychological Complementary Total Companionship between the Two Sexes... and that is what the "Bomb-Shelter Mentality" of Lesbianism denies to Women.

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However, the same dynamic simply is not true of Male Homosexuals.

Males are, by nature, more Sexually-Aggressive and Less-Social, more Logocentric and less Empathic, than are the Females of the Species. (Indeed, the opportunity to understand and explore the differences between the Sexes is a Delight which the Lesbian denies to herself).

Being (as a Male) more Sexually-Aggressive, and less inherently needful of Companionship and Socialization -- the Male Homosexual, his sexual urges not moderated by the Human Female need for devotion and commitment, becomes a Frankenstein Monster. Being (as a Male) the more Sexually-Aggressive member of the Species, surrounding himself and only satisfied by other Sexually-Aggressive members of the Species, his natural ardor attends to Sexual Promiscuity and Sexual Transgressivity.

I might be wrong 1 time in 100, but largely -- I know I'm right, 99 times out of 100. Sheesh, I live just outside Key West, the Sodom of the Caribbean -- I don't need peer-reviewed University Sociology studies to confirm that which I have seen, first-hand.

TELL ME I'M WRONG, FIFI. Just try and tell me that the majority of Male Homosexuals (or even Ten Percent!) are even remotely interested in "Private Unions" which entail a Contractual, Lifetime, Legally-Enforceable Commitment of Monogamy. If that's what they want, I can drive down to the Key West OfficeMax and appropriately modify the necessary "Business Partnership Forms" for less than $100 Bucks.

NO. That isn't what this is about. That is NOT what the Homosexuals want. Homosexuals do not want contractual, lifetime, mutally-devoted monogamous MARRIAGE. What Homosexuals truly desire are the Legal Powers, Privileges, and Compulsory Social Acceptances which necessarily accrue from GOVERNMENT MARRIAGE LICENSES.

By way of example:
I am (God willing) soon to be Married myself.

• WHAT I WANT is to be absolutely bound by Private Contract, officiated by God's Presbyter, to My Wife, my Beloved.
• WHAT I WANT is to be Her Property, and to lose everything I own if I should ever be Unfaithful to her.
• WHAT I WANT is to be Sacramentally Bound to my appointed Help-Meet, and to be excommunicated from my beloved Orthodox Presbyterian Church (aka, the OPC -- the "Only Perfect Church") if I ever Betray or Abandon her.

  And what do I ask in return? Only that which she has already asked of me: "I want a Husband I can trust to make all the decisions for our family, asking only that you take my input into consideration." (and she knows I do -- and I always will, baby. I always will.)

  THAT'S WHAT I WANT. And I can do all that by Church and Private Contract, without any need for the thrice-damned "Government Marriage License" -- I'll play by Caesar's Rules, of course, but to me the whole matter of the "Government Marriage License" is just another example of Caesar usurping that which does not properly belong to him.

Now... you gonna tell me that THAT is what the Homosexuals want? A Contractual, Lifetime, Legally-Enforceable Binding Private Union -- without any Government License or Privilege whatsoever?

The hell you say.

What the Homosexuals want is the Government License and Privilege... they really couldn't give a damn about a Contractual, Lifetime, Legally-Enforceable Binding Private Union.

Homosexuals do not really want MARRIAGES.
What they really want, is STATE-ENFORCED MARRIAGE LICENSES.

That's what this is about.

Best, OP

[xzins]

Exceptionally solid post.

[opus86]

Well said, and congratulations on your upcoming nuptials.

[BikerNYC]

And I can do all that by Church and Private Contract, without any need for the thrice-damned "Government Marriage License"

Then why get one of those nasty little government marriage licenses? As you say, you don't need it to live a good and moral life, bound to your betrothed in the eyes of the OPC.

Is it that the license gives you certain perks which are not necessarily connected to the religious aspects of your private marriage that you find.....let us say....valuable?

[lentulusgracchus]

Concurring bump. Well-reasoned. You are your own support, as it were.

And best of wishes to you and your intended for your future lifetime together.