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email | 6/28/04 | Andy Bufalo, MSgt. USMC Ret.

Posted on 06/29/2004 9:31:00 AM PDT by kas2591

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To: clamper1797
"You don't get it ... they will take care of business you (meaning the media nad the general public) will NEVER know it ... and they will NOT ask for permission"

Some of us will hear of it from our friends, and we'll just SMILE.........

41 posted on 06/29/2004 12:31:45 PM PDT by litehaus
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To: kellynla

The loss of four snipers looms large as well. The timeline bothers me.


42 posted on 06/29/2004 12:34:05 PM PDT by HipShot (All of our ammunition should be dipped in pig fat)
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To: BlueLancer

Thanks, I will attribute it to the owner.


43 posted on 06/29/2004 12:37:07 PM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: Quilla

You have a lot of "if's" in your post...

Bottom line, he is UA. He took off on the 19th and didn't report for duty on the 20th.

He was "suspected" of taking off for Lebanon.
The terrorists claim they "lured" him...whatever that means since I doubt there's much they could offer other than maybe cash...

And yes we Marines are a very close knit group especially in combat. But when a Marine takes off there may not be any red flags...combat fatigue, what we use to call "shell shock" can snap a man at any time...and he deserts or "loses it"


44 posted on 06/29/2004 12:41:38 PM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1/5 1st Mar Div. Nam 69&70 Semper Fi http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnkerry.com)
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To: HipShot
The loss of four snipers looms large as well.

Casualties are a part of war...
People forget but even as recently as Nam we were losing as many as four or five hundred a week when I was there in '69 & '70...
and I won't even get into the losses in Korea and WWII
These guys are the best trained warriors in history.
They are coming home and volunteering to go back...
45 posted on 06/29/2004 12:51:52 PM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1/5 1st Mar Div. Nam 69&70 Semper Fi http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnkerry.com)
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To: lindblad80

It took awhile but I found the letter on sftt.org
Bufalo is his real name and he's a contributing editor to Defense Watch.

http://www.sftt.org/ is where I found it.


46 posted on 06/29/2004 3:14:07 PM PDT by kas2591 (Life's harder when you're stupid.)
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To: Palladin

There's plenty of guts to back it up; perhaps not enough political cojones.


47 posted on 06/29/2004 4:13:22 PM PDT by kas2591 (Life's harder when you're stupid.)
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To: kellynla

Thanks. I noted this morning the military has changed his status from AWOL to "captured".

Ever since the opening days of the Iraq War, when a Sgt fragged his own officers, I've been cautious about this sort of thing.


48 posted on 06/30/2004 6:48:48 AM PDT by Badeye ("The day you stop learning, is the day you begin dying")
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To: Badeye

I received this article from "River Rat" this am.

NYTimes.com > International > Middle East

Abducted Marine Had Reportedly Deserted
By JEFFREY GETTLEMAN and NICK MADIGAN

Published: June 30, 2004


AGHDAD, Iraq, June 29 — "The American marine who is being threatened by his kidnappers with beheading had deserted the military because he was emotionally traumatized, and was abducted by his captors while trying to make his way home to his native Lebanon, a Marine officer said Tuesday.

The officer, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, said he believed that Cpl. Wassef Ali Hassoun was betrayed by Iraqis he befriended on his base and ended up in the hands of Islamic extremists.

The officer said Corporal Hassoun, a 24-year-old Marine linguist who was born in Lebanon, was shaken up after he saw one of his sergeants blown apart by a mortar shell.

"It was very disturbing to him," the officer said. "He wanted to go home and quit the game, but since he was relatively early in his deployment, that was not going to happen anytime soon. So he talked to some folks on base he befriended, because they were all fellow Muslims, and they helped sneak him off. Once off, instead of helping him get home, they turned him over to the bad guys."

"It's all we know right now," the officer added.

Corporal Hassoun, a fluent Arabic-speaker who had been living with his family in West Jordan, Utah, outside Salt Lake City, joined the Marine Corps to work as a translator.

About two months ago, he told a cousin that several American deserters had escaped by bribing Iraqis to help get them out of the country.

"He said a lot of soldiers, they don't want to die, especially when they see someone dying in front of them," said the cousin, Tarek Hassoun, who lives in Salt Lake City.

Marine officials said Sunday night that Corporal Hassoun had been missing since June 21. On Sunday, the Qatar-based television network Al Jazeera broadcast a videotape that showed him blindfolded with a sword over his head.

According to a statement provided with the video, an obscure group called The Islamic Reaction said it had abducted him near Falluja and was threatening to behead him unless American forces released all Iraqi prisoners.

The group, which also identified itself as the security wing of the 20th Revolution Regiment, a reference to the Arab uprising after World War I, did not give a deadline for the release or execution.

When Corporal Hassoun was first shown in captivity on video Sunday, Marine officials were reluctant to confirm that he had been kidnapped. On Monday, they acknowledged that they were now classifying his status as "captured."

Masked men have snatched dozens of foreigners in the past several months. On Tuesday, three Turks were freed after by their captors.

But several hostages have been executed. The latest victim appears to be Specialist Keith Matthew Maupin, an American soldier who vanished after an ambush on his convoy near Baghdad on April 9.

On Monday, Al Jazeera, which has been first to broadcast a number of videos showing the killing of Americans, broadcast a video it said ended with kidnappers shooting Specialist Maupin in the head. Army officials said they could not confirm that he had been killed.

Intelligence officials said it is not clear if the kidnappings are coordinated, although they suspect that some of the captors are at least loosely tied to Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, a Jordanian militant thought to be behind much of the mayhem in Iraq.

On Monday night, Muslims in Salt Lake City gathered at the Khadeeja Mosque, one of three mosques in the city, to pray for Corporal Hassoun.

Mahdi Jaff, 38, an Iraqi Kurd who immigrated to the United States 10 years ago, said he had met Corporal Hassoun a few months ago while the marine was home on leave.

"I loved him when I met him," Mr. Jaff said. Mr. Jaff said Corporal Hassoun had stayed true to his Muslim values while serving in the military.

When he heard the news that a member of the Hassoun family had been seized in Iraq, Mr. Jaff said he did not know who it was.

"He has a lot of brothers so, at first, I was not sure who was captured, but then when I saw the picture, I said, `Oh, man, that's him,' ' Mr. Jaff said. "I was really shocked that it was him."

"Those people will not negotiate," Mr. Jaff said of Corporal Hassoun's captors. "He just has to wait for his time to come. It's just like when someone would be sent to Saddam Hussein's jails; he would send a message to his family and say, `I'm gone.' "

Others in Salt Lake City were also praying Monday night. About 25 people stood in the rain on the steps of the Utah State Capitol, pleading for Corporal Hassoun's release.

Pamela Atkinson, 68, of Salt Lake City, led the group in a prayer to God.

"As the insurgents threaten his life, we ask that Corporal Hassoun and his family feel your loving arms around them," she said.


Jeffrey Gettleman reported from Baghdad for this article and Nick Madigan from Salt Lake City. Melissa Sanford contributed reporting from Salt Lake City."

Looks like my suspicions were right.

Semper Fi,
Kelly


49 posted on 06/30/2004 6:53:18 AM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1/5 1st Mar Div. Nam 69&70 Semper Fi http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnkerry.com)
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To: kellynla

Thanks Kelly, this is pretty much what I expected.


50 posted on 06/30/2004 6:56:12 AM PDT by Badeye ("The day you stop learning, is the day you begin dying")
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To: kas2591
Nothing will happen. Our Marines are so hamstrung from the Political Correctness BS, that our Marines can't do anything or they will be prosecuted. Don't you remember some prisoners had panties put on their heads! And now our military is going to be tried for war crimes! The only thing left to do is check with your lawyer before you shoot. If GWB sent a nuke somewhere he would go to jail for war crimes. We have killed our own country. :(
51 posted on 06/30/2004 7:02:09 AM PDT by US_MilitaryRules (I'll donate to the RNC after the nuclear annihilation of a few Islamic countries! Still waiting!)
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