[dirtboy]

When was the last time Habeas Corpus was curtailed?

The point is, the founders themselves realized that there were occasions when the country was under attack that rights might need to be curtailed. If you want to raise the specter of the Founders, you've gotta take all aspects of their work into account, and not just the stuff that supports your case.

[ksen]

The point is, the founders themselves realized that there were occasions when the country was under attack that rights might need to be curtailed.

Yeah, but you brought up habeas corpus. Are you saying we are in as much danger now as we were during the Civil War?