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CA: Illegal immigrants driver's license bill shelved temporarily
Monterey Herald ^ | 6/28/04 | Steve Lawrence - AP

Posted on 06/28/2004 8:33:00 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

SACRAMENTO - Legislation that would allow an estimated 2 million illegal immigrants to get California driver's licenses was shelved temporarily Monday by a Senate committee, significantly reducing the amount of time to enact it this year.

The measure by Sen. Gil Cedillo, D-Los Angeles, was placed on the Senate Appropriations Committee's suspense file, a standard procedure for bills projected to cost the state more than $150,000.

The committee is tentatively scheduled to vote on suspense file bills Aug. 13, and the Legislature is scheduled to adjourn its 2004 session on Aug. 31.

"It certainly shortens the window of opportunity to move it through the Legislature, but we still think we can get it out of the Senate and through the Assembly and onto the governor's desk on or before Aug. 31," said Edward Headington, a spokesman for Cedillo.

Cedillo was the author of legislation that Gov. Gray Davis signed last year that authorized the licenses for illegal immigrants, but after Davis was recalled by voters lawmakers voted to repeal that statute under pressure from Davis' successor, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, and the threat of a voter referendum to overturn it.

Cedillo has since been negotiating with Schwarzenegger on a new bill with additional security measures attached to it, including fingerprinting and background checks.

Headington said Cedillo was waiting for a counterproposal from the Republican governor once lawmakers approve a new state budget. "We've had our proposal on his desk for just over two months now," he added.

Schwarzenegger's press secretary, Margita Thompson, said the governor was focusing on reaching a budget agreement with legislative leaders and was not looking at the driver's license legislation "in terms of any specific time horizon."

"He's focused on getting the policy done right, working to ensure that we can devise a policy that allows us to ensure that a person is who he or she says he is," she said.

One sticking point could be whether the licenses include any indication the driver is an immigrant, a provision that Schwarzenegger's communications chief, Rob Stutzman, said earlier this month should be "sensibly discussed" in negotiations on the bill.

But Headington said such a disclosure "invites discrimination. Your landlord or the cashier at the bank doesn't need to know your immigration status."

A potential compromise might be to include that information about the driver's immigration status in the magnetic strip of the license, which would give law enforcement access to it, Headington added.

Opponents contend that the licenses could be used by terrorists to assume false identities, but bill supporters, who include some law enforcement officials, dispute that.

They say the bill would help make the state's roadways safer because illegal immigrants would have to pass driving tests to get licenses.

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On the Net: Read the bill, SB1160, at www.senate.ca.gov


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; bill; calgov2002; driverslicense; illegal; immigrantlist; immigrants; immigration; onebillgil; sb1160; shelved; temporarily
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1 posted on 06/28/2004 8:33:00 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: *calgov2002; california

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2 posted on 06/28/2004 8:33:25 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi Mac ... Godspeed x40 ... Support Our Troops!!! ......Become a FR Monthly Donor ...)
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Your landlord or the cashier at the bank doesn't need to know your immigration status."

I'm sorry, but I own rental property and I have an absolute right to know who I am renting to.

Headington's a loon.

3 posted on 06/28/2004 8:41:10 PM PDT by South40 (Amnesty for ILLEGALS is a slap in the face to the USBP!)
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To: NormsRevenge
They say the bill would help make the state's roadways safer because illegal immigrants would have to pass driving tests to get licenses.

You mean illegal immigrants DON'T need to pass a driving test now to get licenses.

4 posted on 06/28/2004 8:41:16 PM PDT by sd-joe
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To: NormsRevenge
...Good news, thanks...

...Kind of like "Thread, pulled" by Ad. Mod.%^)...

5 posted on 06/28/2004 8:51:56 PM PDT by gargoyle (...Let them talk, I'll loan them my shovel to dig their own grave...)
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To: NormsRevenge
Do we get to know about the deal that led to this outcome?

It can't be that hard to bug a tent.

6 posted on 06/28/2004 8:52:40 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (A faith in Justice, none in "fairness")
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To: NormsRevenge
Your landlord or the cashier at the bank doesn't need to know your immigration status.

Since it is illegal to employ aliens, it putting the information on a license would make it easier for employers to comply.

I can forsee a lawsuit the first time someone gets fined for employing an illegal.

7 posted on 06/28/2004 9:00:26 PM PDT by CurlyDave
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To: NormsRevenge

I guess the morons in Sacramento finally got the message:
"We recalled a governor, we can recall you too!"


8 posted on 06/28/2004 9:09:25 PM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1/5 1st Mar Div. Nam 69&70 Semper Fi http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnkerry.com)
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But Headington said such a disclosure "invites discrimination. Your landlord or the cashier at the bank doesn't need to know your immigration status."

But it's ok for your landlord or the cashier at the bank to know your weight, date of birth, whether you're required to wear corrective lenses, or whether you've chosen to donate your organs after you die. Certainly none of that information can be considered personal.

9 posted on 06/28/2004 9:18:57 PM PDT by judgeandjury
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To: NormsRevenge
They say the bill would help make the state's roadways safer because illegal immigrants would have to pass driving tests to get licenses.

Most of these illegal alien lawbreakers have been driving for years. They already know how to drive. Giving them driver's licenses won't make them better drivers. It would just make them legal drivers.

10 posted on 06/28/2004 9:22:09 PM PDT by judgeandjury
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To: judgeandjury

"They say the bill would help make the state's roadways safer because illegal immigrants would have to pass driving tests to get licenses."

Hey guys, this is all just a BS ploy to get the illegals an "in" at the DMV so they can register to vote...and anyone who thinks different is just not paying attention!


12 posted on 06/28/2004 9:50:35 PM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1/5 1st Mar Div. Nam 69&70 Semper Fi http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnkerry.com)
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To: Exterminate The ACLU

Kill Gil's Bill .. The Sequel


13 posted on 06/28/2004 9:51:56 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi Mac ... Godspeed x40 ... Support Our Troops!!! ......Become a FR Monthly Donor ...)
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I am so sick of the "they do jobs most Americans won't do" argument -- as if non-Hispanics are spoiled rotten racist snobs who won't stoop to do a hard day's work. Phooey!

Cedillo and Arnold need to really crunch the numbers and realize that illegal immigration steals BILLIONS from the CA budget. Yet, they just point the finger at the ubiquitous "Federal Government" for not spending the money to seal off the borders.

There will be another recall and Arnold's name will be on it if he signs this bill, "security measures" be damned. They are up there is Sacramento just waiting for a big National emergency to hog up the headlines so they can quietly slip this through with no fanfare.
14 posted on 06/28/2004 10:15:56 PM PDT by CalifornianConservative (Two legs good - George Orwell)
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To: NormsRevenge
They say the bill would help make the state's roadways safer because illegal immigrants would have to pass driving tests to get licenses.

Of course, that is a lie. In any case, I know a MUCH more effective way at making the roadways safer from illegal aliens: DEPORT THEM ALL!!!

15 posted on 06/28/2004 10:16:21 PM PDT by SpyGuy
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"because illegal immigrants would have to pass driving tests"

Yeah... And ya hafta pass on the LEFT in this cuntry, Senor!!!

Badges???!!! I don't got to show you...

16 posted on 06/28/2004 10:22:03 PM PDT by SierraWasp (STOP SCHWARZENEGGER'S SOCIALISTIC SIERRA-NEVADA CONSERVACANCY... NOW!!!)
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But Headington said such a disclosure "invites discrimination. Your landlord or the cashier at the bank doesn't need to know your immigration status."

Isn't it discrimination not to hire murderers on the lam who still contribute to society? What about child molesters who pay taxes? Isn't it my own private business whether or not I am wanted for armed assault on a police officer? What right does my employer or bank have to check on my private legal status??

17 posted on 06/28/2004 10:22:53 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Carry_Okie
"It can't be that hard to bug a tent."

Oooooooo... But it's such a BIG TENT!!! (with a camel's nose already under the flap!!!)

18 posted on 06/28/2004 10:24:48 PM PDT by SierraWasp (STOP SCHWARZENEGGER'S SOCIALISTIC SIERRA-NEVADA CONSERVACANCY... NOW!!!)
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To: *immigrant_list; A Navy Vet; Lion Den Dan; Free the USA; Libertarianize the GOP; madfly; B4Ranch; ..

ping


19 posted on 06/28/2004 10:42:48 PM PDT by gubamyster
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should be shelved permanently.


20 posted on 06/28/2004 10:44:43 PM PDT by television is just wrong
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