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The Son Also Rises (Q&A with Ron Reagan)
The New York Times Magazine ^ | 06/27/04 | DEBORAH SOLOMON

Posted on 06/27/2004 5:13:24 PM PDT by Pokey78

Q-Now that the country is awash in Reagan nostalgia, some observers are predicting that you will enter politics. Would you like to be president of the United States?

I would be unelectable. I'm an atheist. As we all know, that is something people won't accept.

What would you do if Senator Kerry asked you to be his vice president?

I would question his sanity.

Do you ever go to church?

No. I visit my wife's sangha.

So you sometimes practice Buddhism?

I don't claim anything. But my sympathies would be in that direction. I admire the fact that the central core of Buddhist teaching involves mindfulness and loving kindness and compassion.

Your father has been eulogized as a model of genuineness. But did you see any schism between his public and private selves?

In private, you got what you got in public. He treated everyone the same. He was just a very warm man, and he worked hard to impress upon his children the value of kindness. He was biologically incapable of gossip. There was no smallness in him.

Do you think you were a thorn in his side during his presidency?

No.

But you and Patti were constantly getting into trouble. Didn't she later pose nude for Playboy?

I never really talked to Patti about it. She said that she had done it, and what do you say to your sister who poses in the nude? It's not like you are really itching to see photographs of your sister naked. I mean, it's just something that is not too exciting.

How did your father react when you joined the Joffrey Ballet?

That was fine with him. He wanted us to be happy, and if that meant leaving Yale University as a freshman and studying ballet, his first move was to call Gene Kelly and find out where the best place to study would be.

Do you and your wife, Doria, have children?

No. We have three cats. It's like having children, but there is no tuition involved.

Aren't you working in television these days?

I am a correspondent for MSNBC. They hired me primarily to do election coverage for them. We're not rich. Doria's a clinical psychologist. I mow my own lawn.

Doesn't your mom help you out financially?

Of course not. My father felt that children should make their own way.

How do you account for all the glowing obituaries of him?

I think it was a relief for Americans to look at pictures of something besides men on leashes. If you are going to call yourself a Christian -- and I don't -- then you have to ask yourself a fundamental question, and that is: Whom would Jesus torture? Whom would Jesus drag around on a dog's leash? How can Christians tolerate it?
It is unconscionable. It has put our young men and women who are over there, fighting a war that they should not have been asked to fight -- it has put them in greater danger.

Did you vote for Bush in the last election?

No. I did not.

How did your mother feel about being ushered to her seat by President Bush?

Well, he did a better job than Dick Cheney did when he came to the rotunda. I felt so bad. Cheney brought my mother up to the casket, so she could pay her respects. She is in her 80's, and she has glaucoma and has trouble seeing. There were steps, and he left her there. He just stood there, letting her flounder. I don't think he's a mindful human being. That's probably the nicest way I can put it.

How serious is your mother's glaucoma?

I don't know the specifics. She can still see. You may have noticed that she was wearing large glasses at one point.

She seemed very moved by the tributes to your father.

I have to say that flying on Air Force One sort of spoils you for coach on a regular airline. They did all sorts of little things that were very nice for my mother. They put towels with my father's monogram in the bathroom.

Paper towels?

No, cloth! Burgundy terry towels.

Wow. Why can't they run the United States with that kind of efficiency?

That's a good question. One thing that Buddhism teaches you is that every moment is an opportunity to change. And we will have a moment in November to make a big change.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: abashment; applefellfarfromtree; chagrin; discomfiture; disgrace; hasproblemwithgod; impotent; incatnotinthekitten; junior; ronreaganjr; sonisembarrassment; vexatious
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To: Vision Thing
I can see junior being the same as Longshank's son, but based on the rest of your post, I sense you don't want to equate President Reagan with Longshank himself.

nope Ron Reagan had more in common with......


41 posted on 06/27/2004 6:25:50 PM PDT by Dick Vomer (liberals suck......... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.)
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To: Pokey78

"How did your mother feel about being ushered to her seat by President Bush?

Well, he did a better job than Dick Cheney did when he came to the rotunda. I felt so bad. Cheney brought my mother up to the casket, so she could pay her respects. She is in her 80's, and she has glaucoma and has trouble seeing. There were steps, and he left her there. He just stood there, letting her flounder. I don't think he's a mindful human being. That's probably the nicest way I can put it.

How serious is your mother's glaucoma?

I don't know the specifics. She can still see. You may have noticed that she was wearing large glasses at one point."




... Reagan said he expected his mother to continue to speak out in favor of stem cell research. Nancy Reagan has long argued that such work could lead to cures for a number of diseases like the Alzheimer's that afflicted her husband.

He said Nancy Reagan was doing "pretty well."

"I've got to hand it to her. She's 83 years old. She doesn't get around as well as she used to, a little glaucoma," he said. But, "She's a professional."

(snip)



http://www.abcnews.go.com/wire/US/ap20040624_1843.html


42 posted on 06/27/2004 6:27:59 PM PDT by maggief
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To: Pokey78
"We have three cats. It's like having children, but there is no tuition involved."

This says it all for me. Anyone who has children and pets knows that the only person who could even contemplate a statement like this is a self-centered, immature fool. When you have children, everything in your life revolves around them. When you have pets, you leave an extra helping of food in their dish when you decide to take a trip for the weekend. There is NO comparison. Of course, to realize that there is no comparison you would have to actually take responsibility for something, which is just.. like.. way.. too.. heavy.. man.

43 posted on 06/27/2004 6:28:29 PM PDT by kerryveryscary (When is Bush going to apologize for this tagline?)
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To: beaversmom
Probably one of these types that thinks that humans are a virus on this planet.

Hah! I come across these kinds of people once in awhile. They advocate "extinction of the human race". I ask them why they haven't led by example, yet.

44 posted on 06/27/2004 6:30:54 PM PDT by xrp
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To: lonestar

" What is a sangha?"

A sangha is a Buddhist community.
I was being mischievous :-).


45 posted on 06/27/2004 6:34:18 PM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: kerryveryscary
When you have pets, you leave an extra helping of food in their dish when you decide to take a trip for the weekend.

Maybe that is how you treat YOUR pets...

46 posted on 06/27/2004 6:34:28 PM PDT by ambrose ("Wearing Religion on Your Sleeve," DemoRat Style: http://tinyurl.com/yvvmz)
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RonBoy is just a RINO... Reagan in name only.

47 posted on 06/27/2004 6:34:52 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: Texas Eagle
Do you and your wife, Doria, have children?

No. We have three cats.

That settles it...not that there was ever any question...

48 posted on 06/27/2004 6:44:58 PM PDT by ErnBatavia (...proud to be a Brown Shirted digital First Responder)
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To: lonestar
What is a sangha?

A fruity concoction involving citrus and cheap wine.

:)

49 posted on 06/27/2004 6:47:20 PM PDT by ErnBatavia (...proud to be a Brown Shirted digital First Responder)
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To: Pokey78

With Ron Reagan Jr the acorn not only didn't fall near the tree, it didn't even land in the same yard.

I fully expect to see him, in his tutu, slamming W at the Dem convention.

God Bless Mike Reagan, and the departed Maureen Reagan. They were the good kids who both loved their father and believed in his legacy.


50 posted on 06/27/2004 6:51:30 PM PDT by RW1974
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To: Texas Eagle
For the record, his name is not Ron, Jr.

President Reagan's full name was Ronald Wilson Reagan. The ballerina's name is Ronald Prescott Reagan.

Technically that makes him not a Junior.

Carry on.

It irks me when the leftwingers do the same thing with the president and call him jr. His name is George Walker Bush and 41's name is George Herbert walker Bush. He had two middle names

51 posted on 06/27/2004 6:56:48 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Porterville
Jake Barnes - the hero of The Sun Also Rises - had his penis severed by Austrian shrapnel on the Isonzo/Piave front. Bullfighting was an allegory in the novel.
52 posted on 06/27/2004 7:23:02 PM PDT by Castlebar (former Florida military absentee voter)
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To: ambrose
Here ya go

53 posted on 06/27/2004 7:25:33 PM PDT by kerryveryscary (When is Bush going to apologize for this tagline?)
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To: Vision Thing; BartMan1; Nailbiter
Wow. Why can't they run the United States with that kind of efficiency?

This is an example of media bias on the part of the NYT interviewer.

It's too bad for the lib interviewer that Bush's administration toppled an enemy government in less than a month. No other government in human history has ever been as efficient when performing such a task.

Don't forget, these same people (the NYT, and Ron) think that government is qualified to make medical decisions for you...

54 posted on 06/27/2004 7:27:22 PM PDT by IncPen (Proud member of the Half Vast Right Wing Conspiracy)
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To: aequitas

Ronnie is a scumbag.

Oh, and welcome to Free Republic.


55 posted on 06/27/2004 7:35:34 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Castlebar

Oh, it has been a few years, I thought he took a horn in the groin... doesn't change the point.


56 posted on 06/27/2004 7:46:13 PM PDT by Porterville (Fight Communism, vote Republican- and piss on france)
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To: DumpsterDiver
He was just a very warm man, and he worked hard to impress upon his children the value of kindness. He was biologically incapable of gossip. There was no smallness in him.

In other words, everything you are not, Ron P.

57 posted on 06/27/2004 9:17:51 PM PDT by beaversmom (Michael Medved has the Greatest radio show on GOD's Green Earth)
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To: Chode
...Reagan in name only.

Nice!

58 posted on 06/28/2004 3:04:22 AM PDT by LowCountryJoe (I find it extremely funny when the Buchananites 'Deep Throat' each other. [Irony intended])
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