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NASCAR NC Dodge/Save Mart 350 at Infineon Raceway,, Sonoma, CA on FoX, Sunday, 1 pm PT / 4 pm ET
Nascar.com ^ | 6/25/04

Posted on 06/25/2004 12:13:51 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

Prayers for our troops in the field , their families and our nation and allies as we wage war against Terrorism, foreign and domestic.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; US: California
KEYWORDS: infineon; nascar; nextel; nextelcup; nrnascarthread; sonoma
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To: ChefKeith
Now all we need is someone at the track with a video camera with sound and a "sniffer" piped back to Jim and out to the guys!! Wa La....Virtual racetrack. (ok now I know my tag line fits.)
741 posted on 06/28/2004 7:08:18 PM PDT by WestCoastGal (Freeping & Nascar >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How Bad Have You Got It????)
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To: WestCoastGal

I haven't heard anything about the lion in our neighborhood since it killed the sheep across the gulch from us...


742 posted on 06/28/2004 7:29:40 PM PDT by tubebender (If I had known I would live this long I would have taken better care of myself...)
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To: tubebender

Once they have killed in that area they will be back!!

A wise person once told me "don't muck with mountain lions"

Be careful particularly at dawn and dusk. Watch the pets.


743 posted on 06/28/2004 7:36:52 PM PDT by WestCoastGal (Freeping & Nascar >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How Bad Have You Got It????)
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To: WestCoastGal

A lion will setup "camp" after a kill if it didn't eat it all. That is how many are shot by the Trapper. I will call my know-it-all neighbor about the latest news...


744 posted on 06/28/2004 7:51:52 PM PDT by tubebender (If I had known I would live this long I would have taken better care of myself...)
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To: Charlotte Corday
Dale Earnhardt Jr.? He advised his crew to go see the Michael Moore movie Farenheit 911

Okay, I hope Dale Jr. crashes in every race from now on. I want to see him upside down and on fire.

745 posted on 06/29/2004 11:27:01 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone
There is a lot of rumor out there about this story. We/I am working on getting to the truth if at all possible!! This was a second hand off the cuff story reported in passing by the pre race Fox crew.

I would rather wait until we find out what he really meant. I rather doubt he even knows what he stepped in if he did indeed say that.

So, let's not wreck him and put him in the wall which could possibly kill him whether he said it or not. OK?
746 posted on 06/29/2004 2:31:51 PM PDT by WestCoastGal (Freeping & Nascar >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How Bad Have You Got It????)
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To: WestCoastGal
My wife said she saw him say it on CBS news, which I don't watch. Maybe she got it wrong, so I immediately came to this thread to see if anyone else had heard it.

Unless you clear him, he's on my upside down and on fire list.

747 posted on 06/29/2004 2:39:41 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone

OK first of all CBS news?????? Wouldn't it just be like them to latch onto this story?

OK, I'm still on that mission to clear him. I may have to eat pit road crow or something. We'll see.


748 posted on 06/29/2004 2:57:40 PM PDT by WestCoastGal (Freeping & Nascar >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How Bad Have You Got It????)
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To: NormsRevenge; steveegg; ChefKeith; glock rocks; tubebender; Pete-R-Bilt; Dog Gone; NYTexan

So far only print story I can find and guess what Free Republic had a mention!!

6:00 p.m. Monday

Fox: NASCAR's Earnhardt urged crew to see Fahrenheit 9/11: This is news because the NASCAR circuit is (rightly or wrongly) considered solid Bush country, and the Earnhardt name is gold. From the conservative FreeRepublic.com. (The thread has been been deleted, but you can read an archive of it in two parts here and here. Because this is copied to another site, the links inside the pages don't work.):

Verbatim from Chris Myers (Fox Sports announcer) on today's race at Pomona pre-race program..

"You think you know Dale Earnhardt Jr.? He advised his crew to go see the Michael Moore movie Farenheit 911. He said hey, it'll be a good bonding experience no matter what your political belief. It's a good thing as an American to go see... and it just shows you that Dale Earnhardt Jr. can reach far beyond the steering wheel."

Here's the reaction from the person who posted the news:

Did you just hear them say that on Fox? that Dale Earnhardt Jr. says that, politics aside, everyone should see Farenheit 911?

What's up with that? Frankly, I expect better from Dale Earnhardt Jr. and Fox. I'm shocked, annoyed and irritated. They better take that one back. They don't know who they're messing with. We need to find out what's going on here. I am definitely pissed.

If you want to see the poles of American politics today, FreeRepublic.com and DemocraticUnderground.com are the headquarters of the opposing choirs.

(Note: Earnhardt raced at Sonoma, Calif., Sunday; but there is a track in Pomona, and the Nitro Nationals nostalgia drag races last weekend were at the Pomona Fairplex. Did Fox cut away to the drag races to talk about Earnhardt? We doubt it. If you know, please set the record straight.)

http://www.king5.com/sharedcontent/ptech/weblog2/062804ccdrptechweblog.2ac27b310.html

ps/those "here and here" links are copies of the actual pulled threads which I will not post here. But they are out there.

I am still working on this......not giving up!!!


749 posted on 06/29/2004 4:33:01 PM PDT by WestCoastGal (Freeping & Nascar >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How Bad Have You Got It????)
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To: WestCoastGal

Oh, Myyyyy!!!


DeVeloping (as a certain newsdude so often says..)


750 posted on 06/29/2004 4:50:09 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi Mac ... Godspeed x40 ... Support Our Troops!!! ......Become a FR Monthly Donor ...)
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To: WestCoastGal
Find out! There's a huge difference between rooting for someone to win and hoping they're spinning on their roof!

Enquiring minds want to know!

751 posted on 06/29/2004 4:56:58 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: WestCoastGal
I may have to eat pit road crow or something

Would that still considered Road Kill???

752 posted on 06/29/2004 5:31:43 PM PDT by tubebender (If I had known I would live this long I would have taken better care of myself...)
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To: tubebender

Only in Arkansas!! ;-)


753 posted on 06/29/2004 5:41:15 PM PDT by WestCoastGal (Freeping & Nascar >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How Bad Have You Got It????)
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To: WestCoastGal

Interesting! In that DU was mentioned and that the jr. bashing thread got archieved by someone and sent to them.


754 posted on 06/29/2004 6:06:31 PM PDT by NYTexan
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NASCAR looking to simplify rules
755 posted on 06/29/2004 7:37:27 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi Mac ... Godspeed x40 ... Support Our Troops!!! ......Become a FR Monthly Donor ...)
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To: NormsRevenge

article that goes with link above ;-)

NASCAR looking to simplify rules

http://sports.yahoo.com/nascar/news?slug=ap-nascar-france&prov=ap&type=lgns

By MIKE HARRIS, AP Motorsports Writer

June 29, 2004

For the most part, the first 10 months of Brian France's tenure as boss of NASCAR has been a breeze.

The changeover from longtime sponsor Winston to Nextel in NASCAR's top series has gone smoothly. A major antitrust lawsuit over a second race for the Fort Worth track was settled out of court and played right along with the expected schedule realignment. And a new way of determining the Cup championship -- with a 10-race shootout at the end of the season -- is already generating excitement.

``I've enjoyed the responsibilities and it's obviously action-packed,'' France said Tuesday during a teleconference. ``We have our work cut out for us, but working with the team we've got, developing new ideas and trying to make racing better, it's been a fun first year for me.''

One thing that hasn't been much fun, though, is the reaction of competitors and fans to the first major rule change of France's tenure.

Last fall, shortly after taking over from his father, Bill France Jr., as chairman and CEO of NASCAR, it was announced that drivers would no longer race to the finish line when a yellow flag came out.

Competitors had been complaining about that dangerous practice for years and, after a particularly scary moment in which former Cup champion Dale Jarrett's car was stuck in the middle of the track with nearly the entire field bearing down at top speed, the younger France decided to do something about it.

Unfortunately, the change has caused debate over how to freeze the drivers' positions at the moment the caution flag waves and how soon to open the pit lane during yellows.

There have been a series of confusing rule changes, overlong caution periods during some races and several mistakes by officials that prompted NASCAR president Mike Helton to issue apologies.

France said NASCAR is well on the way to solving those problems, but he wants to make the rules as simple as possible for everyone.

``The expectations from the drivers, the owners, fans and everybody in the industry is that NASCAR is going to conduct the events in a mistake-free environment,'' France said. ``We all know that that's not humanly possible, although that's our own expectation.

``We have had several mistakes in the last month that we think we've gotten, for the large measure, corrected. We've obviously introduced a more complicated system in terms of freezing the field, although we simplified that in the last two weeks.''

Among the recent changes: pit road is now opened only by officials in the control tower, rather than an official at the end of the service lane, and the scoring of the field when a caution is displayed is being done with electronic scoring that shows where every car is at any given moment, removing the human element as much as possible.

More changes are coming.

``There will be a thing or two that we think will even further simplify it,'' France said. ``It's all about improving our accuracy and our speed.''

The next big rule change being contemplated, which could be just as controversial and difficult to police, is how to make sure races end under a green flag.

Four of the last eight Cup races have ended under caution, meaning that the drivers did not get to race to the finish but ended the day driving slowly behind the pace truck. That didn't make the drivers or the fans happy.

``We are studying that whole idea of how we might give ourselves more opportunities to finish under a green flag scenario, which is what we want,'' France said.

Former series champion Rusty Wallace isn't in favor of an idea that would restart the cars with both the white one-lap-to-go flag and green displayed simultaneously.

``I don't agree with that and I'll be the first one politicking that you shouldn't do that,'' Wallace said last week. ``All these race fans drinking beer and screaming and hollering have not been in a helicopter upside down with 30 tubes hanging out of you after going end-over-end 30 times like I've been before because of these green-white starts. I think it's ridiculous and it's unsafe.''

The truck series has a rule in place that requires what the drivers call a green-white-checkered finish. With the white flag signifying one lap to go, following a late caution flag, the truck drivers are assured two racing laps to the finish.

``I know that we have (a system) that works in the trucks series but, remember, those are shorter races and we're having to factor in a number of other things,'' said France, the grandson of NASCAR founder Bill France Sr.

``We will make a decision if it promotes better racing or safety or anything that we think improves the industry. In 53 years of managing the sport, we know what the drivers are up against in terms of finishing under green. Most of them have said recently they'd support some version of (green-white-checkered).''



Updated on Tuesday, Jun 29, 2004 6:07 pm EDT


756 posted on 06/29/2004 7:39:11 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi Mac ... Godspeed x40 ... Support Our Troops!!! ......Become a FR Monthly Donor ...)
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To: NormsRevenge; tubebender; glock rocks; ChefKeith; steveegg; Pete-R-Bilt; NYTexan; Dog Gone

DeVeloping Story...........;-)

Posted on Wed, Jun. 30, 2004



Stewart to be put on probation

NASCAR’s punishment also will include fine of up to $50,000

By DAVID NEWTON

Senior Writer


NASCAR is not taking lightly Tony Stewart’s attack of rookie Brian Vickers after Sunday’s road race in Sonoma, Calif..

Stewart will receive a fine that could be as much as $50,000, a loss of at least 25 points in the Nextel Cup race, which will cost him at least one spot in the standings, and a lengthy probation, sources close to the sport said Tuesday.

An official announcement will come today.

“It is a big deal,” said Brian France, the CEO and chairman of NASCAR during a Tuesday conference call. “We’re gonna see how big it is shortly. His behavior is unacceptable.

“Tony has to work within the same rule structure and behavioral expectations that we have for all of our drivers. One way or the other we will figure that out.”

http://www.thestate.com/mld/thestate/sports/9043800.htm



Still working on Jr.


757 posted on 06/30/2004 10:02:53 AM PDT by WestCoastGal (Freeping & Nascar >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How Bad Have You Got It????)
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To: WestCoastGal
On Nascar.com

Fine, probation for Stewart

$50K, 25 points

758 posted on 06/30/2004 11:40:11 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi Mac ... Godspeed x40 ... Support Our Troops!!! ......Become a FR Monthly Donor ...)
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To: NormsRevenge; WestCoastGal

Weak; very weak. The only thing Smoke will understand is getting parked for a race or two.


759 posted on 06/30/2004 11:50:14 AM PDT by steveegg (Coming soon to Boston - Arkancide)
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To: WestCoastGal
Tony Stewart is a great driver, but that guy needs some serious counseling.

Of course, the first NASCAR race I ever saw ended in a fistfight between Cale Yarborough and Donny Allison (?) on a last lap wreck at Daytona. I was hooked.

760 posted on 06/30/2004 12:35:44 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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