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Critic: Comdex gone for good
Las Vegas Sun ^ | June 25, 2004 | Richard N. Velotta

Posted on 06/25/2004 10:59:47 AM PDT by Bobby Chang

Critic: Comdex gone for good

By Richard N. Velotta LAS VEGAS SUN

Convention industry observers are split over whether Comdex, the giant computer trade show that has brought hundreds of thousands of conventioneers to Las Vegas in the 23 years it has been conducted, will ever return after canceling its November show.

The trade show's organizers, in a surprise announcement Wednesday, called the move a postponement, but they said the show wouldn't return to the city until November 2005.

At least one critic of the show says he doesn't think the show will be back.

San Francisco-based MediaLive International Inc., a company formed a year ago in the wake of former owner Key3Media Group's emergence from Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection, announced the cancellation of the event in a news release issued Wednesday morning.

MediaLive managers said the company has established an advisory board of technology industry leaders to determine how the show can better meet the needs of the industry.

"While we could still run a profitable Comdex this year, it does not benefit the industry to do so without broader support of the leading technology companies," said Robert Priest-Heck, president and chief executive of MediaLive, in the statement issued Wednesday.

Technology industry insiders say a combination of factors resulted in Comdex's failure to sustain itself, including poor management by the show's operators.

Several experts say while factors like the downturn in the tech industry and economic damage of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks contributed to the show's downfall, operators of the event failed to react to the rapidly changing needs of industry vendors.

Fewer people came to shows after 2000 because companies were downsizing or closing and others were reducing their expenses and travel budgets because of the recession and then the terrorism.

Meanwhile, smaller shows, like Networld + Interop, which also is operated by MediaLive, have a narrower focus and continue to thrive. Other tech shows have found specific niches to exploit. But Comdex, critics said, tried to be all things to all groups and the show ended up drawing a crowd of lookers that was drawn to Comdex's supermarket approach of gadgetry -- but didn't attract many buyers.

Experts say the highly successful Consumer Electronics Show, which draws more than 125,000 people to Las Vegas every January, is a different type of show because attendees are retailers looking for items to sell and not technology industry professionals.

Comdex, a fixture in Las Vegas since it first opened in 1979, last year generated an estimated $69.5 million in nongaming revenue for the city.

The show's expansion and contraction has mirrored that of the technology industry. In the 1990s, the event grew to become Las Vegas' largest convention. In 1997, the event drew more than 225,000 people to the city and the trade show floor covered a record 1.475 million square feet at the Las Vegas Convention Center, the Sands Expo Center and in tents erected in their respective parking lots.

Attendance projections plummeted and the Comdex shows of 2001 and 2002 drew fewer people than expected. Attendance estimates ranged from 100,000 to 125,000 in 2001 and 75,000 to 100,000 in 2002. The poor showing contributed to Key3Media's filing for bankruptcy protection in February 2002.

Although the company emerged from bankruptcy four months later, the 2003 show attendance was even worse than the year before. Attendance was estimated at between 40,000 and 50,000 people. But organizers said there were more quality buyers than "tire-kickers" attending the show.

MediaLive's contract gives the president of the LVCVA the ability to negotiate new terms to the lease agreement if the company intends to return to the convention center.

The LVCVA is eight days away from the transition of its presidency from Manny Cortez, who is retiring after 13 years as the organization's top executive, to Rossi Ralenkotter, a longtime vice president. Cortez said Wednesday that he was surprised by MediaLives announcement.

"It puts a big hole in our building and a big hole in our town," Cortez said.

He said while the LVCVA wouldn't lose much lease revenue because of the penalty clauses in place on the Comdex contract, other revenue streams would be affected. Those include hundreds of thousands of dollars in catering, food and beverage and communications equipment contracts and parking fees.

Cortez said the LVCVA staff would go to work trying to fill the space that would open up from Nov. 14-19. But that won't be easy.

Nancy Murphy, director of sales for the LVCVA, said putting another show in Comdex's place "would be impossible." The reason: Most major shows book space at least two or three years before the convention date.

Michael Hughes, associate publisher and director of research services for Tradeshow Week magazine, a trade publication that covers the meetings and conventions industry, said Jupitermedia Inc., which has developed a variety of technology trade shows, and Sheldon Adelson, credited with developing Comdex in 1979, contemplated or opened competing trade shows when Key3Media went bankrupt.

Adelson, who owns the company that operates the Sands Expo Center, waited to see what happened to Key3Media, while Jupitermedia debuted cdXpo at the Mandalay Bay Convention Center on the same dates as Comdex 2003. The cdXpo show was an attendance flop, but Chief Executive Alan Meckler insists the show's content was successful.

Meckler said part of his problem resulted from a contractual dispute with Mandalay Resort Group, which he accused of offering cut-rate rooms to the public after Jupitermedia locked in higher rates for conventioneers. After months of seeking a settlement with Mandalay, Meckler said Wednesday he's going to sue Mandalay in a few days.

Hughes said other companies are capable of developing major tech shows, including the Hanover, Germany-based Center for Business and Information Technology, which produces CeBIT, the largest trade show in the world.

Bill Sell, vice president of brand and customer development for CeBIT-America and the author of CeBIT's strategy in the United States, said the company has looked at staging a technology show in Las Vegas, but it decided against it because most of the information technology professionals are based in business centers such as New York.

"It made more sense to us to bring the show to where the buyers are so that they could spend six hours looking at things rather than fly across the country to a destination and spend several days there," Sell said. "Most of these IT departments have shaved their budgets and aren't doing as much traveling."

Sell said the trend in technology shows is to have smaller, more focused events. Even the monstrous CeBIT show in Germany is broken into segments set up in 27 different convention halls, he said.

He said his company's focus is on "vertical markets" in which a specific customer group -- technology professionals in the banking industry, for example -- are identified and solicited as prospective clients.

Customers are brought together for a strategy session, he said, during which technology issues are discussed. Then, they're taken to a smaller but more focused trade-show floor where hardware, software, networking and other peripherals are presented by various vendors.

A similar change in philosophy may be in store for MediaLive.

The company said it plans to have its Comdex Advisory Board meet next month to begin modifying the show product. MediaLive said it has received commitments from several tech companies, including Microsoft Corp., Dell Computer Corp. and Intel Inc. to work with the new board. Those companies are significant because Dell and Intel were Comdex exhibitors that abandoned the show in the late 1990s.

Software giant Microsoft is considered key to the success of the show. Its top executive, Bill Gates, has been a Comdex keynote speaker 20 times. But recently, Microsoft's support of the show has not been as evident.

As Comdex critic Meckler said Wednesday, "you can't have a show if you don't have Microsoft."

Meckler said he thinks Las Vegas has seen the last of Comdex, noting that no tech show that has postponed an event has ever come back. Meckler makes his views public in a weblog published on the Jupitermedia Internet site.

"Comdex died today, Meckler said in his Wednesday entry. "But it really has been dead for years."

"I have no regrets about cdXpo. We did a great job. Success was not in the cards . But we were correct in our message that Comdex was deader than a doornail."


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Germany; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: cebit; computers; germany; lasvegas; tradeshow
Germany's CeBIT has become the computer trade show, and once again the decline of America started by Clinton contiues. The Germans eat Americans for lunch again and now if you want to visit a computer trade show, fork out a few grand, a passport, and a few hotel rooms to go to Hannover, Germany for CeBIT, the only major computer trade show.

Think about it . . . the German post office delivers in the US now, and now Germany is the world's premier showplace for computers, and more automakers are in Germany than in the US.

The question abounds: Is Germany the world's newest capital of industry?

1 posted on 06/25/2004 10:59:47 AM PDT by Bobby Chang
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To: Bobby Chang

comdex built and donated a large portion of the LV convention center, only to become a debit on the books. the wheel continues to turn. the founder was smart and the "big boys" who bought him out not.


2 posted on 06/25/2004 11:04:12 AM PDT by q_an_a
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To: Bobby Chang

Thanks for the post. A friend of mine always attends this Comdex event. He and his family will certainly be interested in this.


3 posted on 06/25/2004 11:10:51 AM PDT by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: Bobby Chang
The upside is that those LVCC union thugs will be hurt, at least a little bit. I loath those lazy, greedy #$%$%ers.

On the other hand, I had great fun evading, avoiding and hassling them.

4 posted on 06/25/2004 11:15:02 AM PDT by Hank Rearden (Refuse to let anyone who could only get a government job tell you how to run your life.)
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To: Bobby Chang

"The question abounds: Is Germany the world's newest capital of industry?"

There's not much to base your statement on if you rely on facts. Other than the fact that people always like to have boogeyman.

So what if they have a trade show. Yipee. They also have 10% or so unemployment rate. German companies are relocating their operations to former eastern block countries to escape germany's socialist laws that hamper them.

Free republic has plenty of information on the real germany. They're not a powerhouse.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1110577/posts

"The result, according to Mr Steingart, is a country where industry is on its knees, where the welfare state is deep in debt, whose inventive minds have been forced into exile, and whose citizens largely hate work. "


5 posted on 06/25/2004 11:18:31 AM PDT by flashbunny (Taxes are not levied for the benefit of the taxed.)
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To: Bobby Chang
Meanwhile, smaller shows, like Networld + Interop, which also is operated by MediaLive, have a narrower focus and continue to thrive.

What on earth is he talking about? N+I has shrunk quite a bit over the last 3 years and is moving out of the convention center to the Mandalay Bay next year.

6 posted on 06/25/2004 11:24:44 AM PDT by mastequilla
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The question abounds: Is Germany the world's newest capital of industry?

Please tell me you are kidding. Germany's unemployment rate is like 11% and the economy has been tanking for several years.

7 posted on 06/25/2004 11:32:18 AM PDT by mastequilla
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To: flashbunny; lilylangtree; mastequilla; Bobby Chang
Comdex died because it became useless. Not because anything CeBit or Germans did.

Comdex became a show where Mom-and-Pop would come out of their WInnebago and ask us at a semiconductor booth what kind of handout t-shirts we had. It was booth babes talking to non-tech boobs. There was no longer any tech-to-tech contact, just a marketing waste of time.

So it a healthy capitalistic economy that put this sick horse out of its misery.

8 posted on 06/25/2004 11:49:25 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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I had the misfortune to have to work at the Nevada Test Site during Comdex in 1992. Couldn't find a room in Vegas for any amount and ended up staying in the housing at the site (which in the 60's had probably been considered marginal).


9 posted on 06/25/2004 11:52:30 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (John Kerry - Not the Swiftest Boat in the Delta.)
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To: lilylangtree

This is sad. I've got lots of great memories of all the Comdex's I went to, and plenty of sweatshirts, caps and T-shirt's to show for it!

Ed


10 posted on 06/25/2004 12:11:29 PM PDT by Sir_Ed
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To: mastequilla

It seems that way because the entire computer industry goes to Germany each year for CeBIT, and CeBIT is the only major computer trade show, so the world of computers seems to revolve around Germany to the computer industry people.


11 posted on 06/26/2004 5:14:34 AM PDT by Bobby Chang
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To: Bobby Chang
That's why Germany is beginning to manufacture BMW's and Mercedes in the US because we offer third world wages and high quality < /sarcasm >.

FWIW Conventions go where the money wants to go, not where the industry is. Germany is just offering the fun and decadence that the convention's want at this time.
12 posted on 06/26/2004 5:26:09 AM PDT by Woodman ("One of the most striking differences between a cat and a lie is that a cat has only nine lives." PW)
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To: Bobby Chang

I know the wireless industry was not fond of Comdex. I did trade show management at several companies that chose not to buy a booth there, but justs rent a suite to wine and dine and pulicize from.


13 posted on 06/26/2004 5:30:25 AM PDT by Hildy ( If you don't stand up for what's RIGHT, you'll settle for what's LEFT.)
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To: sam_paine

You're right. What is your industry and what shows do you attend?


14 posted on 06/26/2004 5:31:20 AM PDT by Hildy ( If you don't stand up for what's RIGHT, you'll settle for what's LEFT.)
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I have been to Comdex at least 10 times and I have to agree that it has outlived it's usefulness. I was all set to go last year but when I looked over the list of companies that were exhibiting and thought about what I was really going to be able to see at the show I cancelled. There are at least two problems I see with Comdex and Comdex-like trade shows. First, the computer industry has become very much a commodity business and the rapid innovation that was occurring in the 80's and 90's just isn't there anymore. The industry has matured. Second, the Internet makes getting the basic info that you need to make buying decisions very easy and you don't need to go to a trade show to pick up brochures.

Given that I still go to two major trade shows each year and a couple of minor ones. The ones I go to are the Consumer Electronics Show and the National Association of Broadcasters show. Both are large Las Vegas conventions although not on the scale of the old Comdex shows.

At CES you get to see the latest in High Definition TV technology and you a get a look ahead at where things are going at least a year to 18 months in advance. There is always "new stuff" at CES.

NAB is a little more specialized but if you are a video nut and a video editor (as I am) then this is the show for you. You get to talk to the real experts and watch them do their stuff with the very best software and very best equipment.

I think the bottom line is the Comdex is dead and deserves to be but it has been replaced by the smaller and more focused trade shows. As someone noted, that is just how capitalism works.

15 posted on 06/26/2004 6:02:40 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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what kind of handout t-shirts we had

That reminds me of "student day" at the AWS Show. (American Welding Society)

16 posted on 06/26/2004 6:13:30 AM PDT by SC Swamp Fox (Aim small, miss small.)
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Is Germany the world's newest capital of industry?

No. The Germans will never "eat Americans for lunch" as long as they think 35 hours a week is excessive.

17 posted on 06/26/2004 6:15:21 AM PDT by sinkspur (There's no problem on the inside of a kid that the outside of a dog can't cure.)
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But if you're in the computer industry, it seems Germany is the capital of the computer industry because it has the only big trade show left with the demise of Comdex, Hannover is the world capital of computers because it is the "it" place in computers.

From a business standpoint, Germany is seeming to be the place where business meets.

Deutsche Post (the German postal system) is running rings around the United States Postal Service especially after it was partially privatised in 2000 (ADR's traded as DEPOF), and have you seen their massive ad campaign in the United States? If you go to OfficeMax, you will see German postal service shipping, and there is even a NASCAR race sponsored by them (Deutsche Post Worldwide 400 last week at MIS). I see ads for the German postal service's delivery system on television everywhere.

How many things German do we see used by ordinary people? German soap (Dial), German postal service (DHL), German cars (Dodge), German shipping (Duck brands), German books (My Life -- yes, the Bill Clinton book), German television (Price Is Right, American Idol), and the list goes on.

We have to watch out against them now, folks.


18 posted on 06/26/2004 8:02:35 AM PDT by Bobby Chang
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Comdex became a show where Mom-and-Pop would come out of their WInnebago and ask us at a semiconductor booth what kind of handout t-shirts we had......

A good friend of mine said the same thing. A waste of time.

19 posted on 06/26/2004 8:08:31 AM PDT by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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