2nd BDE, 2ID 
1st of the 503rd
1st of the 506th
Maintain The Flame, Manchus
Posted on 06/24/2004 6:56:13 PM PDT by Cannoneer No. 4
CAMP CASEY, South Korea — With violence in Iraq expected to increase in coming weeks, Iraqi liaison officers will be attached to the 2nd Infantry Division’s 2nd Brigade Combat Team after it deploys to Iraq in late summer, to coordinate operations with soon-to-be-independent local security forces, according to a Pentagon official who briefed 2nd Brigade leaders earlier this week.
Col. Tom Baltazar, Iraqi team chief for the assistant secretary for Special Operations-Low Intensity Conflict, in the Defense secretary’s office, told 2nd Brigade leaders the violence probably still will be worsening when the combat team arrives in Iraq.
“The president … said we can expect a spike in violence before it quells. I don’t think anyone thinks that violence will go down in the near term,” he said.
The brigade is to arrive in Iraq shortly after the handover of sovereignty to the Iraqi government, slated for June 30. After that, the Coalition Provisional Authority, which has governed Iraq since last year, will transition to the U.S. Embassy.
“The political/military situation over there is going to be very fluid. A date in a continuum is just a date. The transition is going to take much longer than that,” said Baltazar.
After the handover, the Iraqi ministries of the Interior and National Defense are to have a say in how Iraqi security forces are used, he said.
“They have gone from a regime where everything was centrally controlled to … an elected national assembly who will have control over the training, equipping and deployment of those respective security services,” he said. “Instead of us dealing with it unilaterally, the Iraqis are going to have a say in how they react to violence.”
Iraqi liaison officers will be attached to the combat team, Baltazar said. “It will be a liaison for the brigade combat team to the respective Iraqi security force commander. I think it will make a difference.” Eventually, he said, the United States will be trying to hand responsibility for all Iraqi security forces back to the Iraqis, “where it should be.”
Combat team members can expect to play an important role in local government when they arrive in theater, he said.
“They are going to be involved in civil administration. Even though there is going to be this transition, they probably will still be deeply involved in day-to-day activities in their respective area of operations,” he said.
This might entail essentially running a city and involvement in local councils and community activities, he said.
“Because of their mere presence, and being U.S. soldiers, they are going to be viewed as a power organization,” Baltazar said.
The U.S. goal is to instill confidence in Iraqi local, regional and national leaders so they can take over the role of government, he said.
The U.S. military has no peer in combat but it isn’t the best-prepared organization to govern a country, he added.
“We are a de-facto government (of Iraq), and we are not trained to do it very well. Everybody recognizes that when you wear the uniform of the U.S. military, you bring with it a lot of capability and training. What we are still struggling with is the ability to interact at the post-conflict level,” he said. “Our training base is still building on that.”
Six months spent in Iraq this year — first as Lt. Gen. Jay Garner’s chief of staff and later as U.S. administrator Paul Bremer’s chief of regional operations — have given Baltazar insights into local culture, which he passed on to the combat team leaders.
“You have to understand the Iraqi mindset. It is the Third World way of life. You have to take care of yourself first and look after the family. In terms of the priorities, family is their number one priority, then they have a tribal affiliation that is also key, then community … and religion … then it is Iraq as a nation,” he said.
2nd BDE, 2ID 1st of the 503rd
1st of the 506th
Maintain The Flame, Manchus
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Great idea. Would have been even better if they'd sent the Iraqi LNOs to train and team-build with our troops BEFORE deployment.
What becomes of the 2nd BDE KATUSA's? And does the BDE get GI replacements for them or deploy shorthanded?
Camp Stanley was my home from Nov. 84 through Apr. 87. I had some of the best times of my life while there.
Do you remember the intersection on MSR 3 coming out of Red Cloud? Did you know that an M48A5 can't make that turn in high gear?
Camp Casey same 86-87. Second to None.
I did not spend too much time in TDC as I always felt TDC was too actively patrolled by the MP's, and it was too much bother to get back to Camp Stanley in time for PT. My friends and I spent most evenings out in Jackson Circle, just outside CRC. Passed many an evening in the Lucky Club and Gold Star Club. The thrill of riding about in the Hyundai Pony taxicabs is something that you just can't explain to someone who hasn't experienced it.
Yes, I remember that intersection quite well. We did not take our M109A3's through Uijongbu unless we were going to the railway station. So I never got to witness any high speed maneuvers by large tracked vehicles in that area.
Most of the clubs in Korea are probably still operating. They had pretty low overhead, and they did a pretty good volume of drink sales, as I seem to recall. Whether they had to change names and formats as music styles and troop demographics changed I can't answer. But as long as there are GI's around and you've got cold beer, loud music and young women I don't see how your businees can fail.
Thanks for the Pings. Can you remind me what a LNO is? What's the crest next to Maintain the Flame Manchus? Is that from the Stryker Brigade from the 25th ID or a regimental crest. I vaguely remember at least one BN of the 25th being called Manchus over 30 years ago.
My youngest is with the 2nd brigade, they are currently under lockdown orders and doing nothing but training over the next couple of weeks until they deploy.
Do you have any idea how exchange liasson officers obtained the abbreviation of LNO? Did you forget my question about the Manchus, or did you go to sleep? I am. Good Night
It was on 13 July 1900, during the assault on Tientsin, China, in the face of murderous fire that the wounded Regimental Commander, Colonel Emerson H. Liscum seized the National Colors from the fallen Color Sergeant. Colonel Liscum stood fearlessly, directing the attack on the city walls until he too was mortally wounded. His last words to his men were "Keep Up The Fire!"
The assault continued with renewed vigor. As a result of this action, the Regiment earned its foremost trophy, the Liscum Bowl. And the Colonel's last words, "Keep Up The Fire!" have become the Regimental Motto.
I didn't crash yet. That took a bit of work. Thank you. Good Night
In Front of them All 87-88
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