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To: neverdem
If the Congress can pass a law enabling cops to carry nationwide, they can pass a law banning CCW holders from doing so.

Their is already a law that recognizes the Right of all Americans to carry guns nationwide. It's call the 2nd amendment.

And there are already laws which make it a federal felony to deprive any American of their civil Rights.

If Bush/Ashcroft really believed the RKBA was an individual Right, and they really believed in enforcing the laws, they would simply file federal civil Rights charges against the first state cop that harassed someone carrying a gun outside their own state.

But they don't. They care about as much for individual Rights as Bill Clinton cares about his character.

They, like most previous administrations, believe that the gov't is the source of all of our Rights, and whatever "privlidges" we the people have are simply a result of our good graces.

If the House really cared about the second amendment, they would not have passed this bill unless it applied to EVERYONE. And if Bush cared about us peasants or the Bill of Rights, he would veto it.

49 posted on 06/24/2004 4:14:11 PM PDT by Mulder (Those who would give up liberty for temporary security, deserve neither -- Ben Franklin)
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To: Mulder

I totally agree.


52 posted on 06/24/2004 4:17:34 PM PDT by I got the rope
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To: Mulder

If Bush/Ashcroft really believed the RKBA was an individual Right, and they really believed in enforcing the laws, they would simply file federal civil Rights charges against the first state cop that harassed someone carrying a gun inside their own state, territory, commonwealth or District of Columbia.

They could have taken that case in D.C. a little while ago that challenged its draconian gun laws. Either they opposed it, or SCOTUS declined to hear it. With this SCOTUS, that's probably a good thing.

The freeper named robertpaulsen made an argument, convincing to me at least, that the BOR didn't apply to states, just the Feds. The gist of his argument was that only when cases are resolved by SCOTUS and thus incorporated by the 14th Amendment, does any one of the BOR by incorporation, finally force recognition by all the states. I'm not a lawyer, but he sounded convincing. Dubious at first, I eventually bought it.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1146386/posts


66 posted on 06/24/2004 4:51:53 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: Mulder
A military oath is a federal oath and is forever. How am I going to fulfill that part of my oath which refers to 'enemies domestic' unless I'm armed wherever I go -- especially in the world we live in today? A copy of your honorable discharge should serve as your permit.

Of course if you are a Sovereign Citizen and not under color of law, you don't need one anyway. But few there be.

88 posted on 06/25/2004 6:18:34 AM PDT by Eastbound
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