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Jury asks if gun activist will know where they live
Rocky Mountain News ^ | Jun 24, 2004 | Hector Gutierrez

Posted on 06/24/2004 12:17:06 PM PDT by AdamSelene235

BRIGHTON - The jury deliberating the case against Rick E. Stanley asked the judge a rare question Wednesday that didn't sit well with the gun rights activist.

"Does Mr. Stanley have the names and addresses of the jury?" was the question posed to retired Supreme Court Justice Joseph R. Quinn, who is presiding at the trial.

With that, Stanley bowed his head in apparent disappointment.

Adams County prosecutors and Stanley's defense lawyers agreed to let the judge tell the jurors that Stanley will have access only to their names, not their addresses.

Defense lawyer R. Scott Reisch said the question was the first time he had ever heard such an inquiry from jurors.

The jury deliberated for about five hours Wednesday without reaching a verdict. Quinn dismissed the jurors for the day after they submitted another question which asked for the definition of culpable.

The jury will resume deliberations this morning.

Stanley, 49, is on trial on two felony counts of attempting to influence a public servant. He is accused of sending Thornton Municipal Judge Charles J. Rose and 17th Judicial District Judge Donald W. Marshall Jr. a "notice of order" demanding that they reverse his conviction on a weapons violation or face arrest by the Mutual Defense Pact Militia and a trial for treason.

Rose convicted and sentenced Stanley to 90 days in jail for carrying a firearm on public property. Marshall upheld the conviction when Stanley appealed.

Reisch argued during the trial that the "notice of order" was not a threat and became alarming to the judges only after authorities provided them with armed security.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: bang; rickstanley
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1 posted on 06/24/2004 12:17:08 PM PDT by AdamSelene235
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To: AdamSelene235

Yeah, I can see where the jury might be worried about such a thing. Almost as much as gun owners are worried about antigun fanatics and the federal government knowing theirs.


2 posted on 06/24/2004 12:19:14 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: AdamSelene235

Interesting question from the jury.

Wonder what they are thinking.


3 posted on 06/24/2004 12:20:26 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin
Interesting question from the jury. Wonder what they are thinking.

The case came about because, after a different judge found Stanley guilty of a gun crime, he wrote the judge a letter saying that his "militia" was going to "arrest" the judge for violating the Constitution. I guess the jury would like to convict Stanley without getting any such threats themselves.

4 posted on 06/24/2004 12:24:05 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: BenLurkin

"Wonder what they are thinking."

I would think they are worried about this guy might come looking for them.


5 posted on 06/24/2004 12:24:17 PM PDT by Kerberos (Groups are inherently more immoral than individuals.)
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To: AdamSelene235

Paging Bootlickers. Bootlickers to the brown courtesy phone...

6 posted on 06/24/2004 12:24:23 PM PDT by agitator (...And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark)
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To: BenLurkin

Well they are not to bright if they don't know the word culpable.


7 posted on 06/24/2004 12:26:29 PM PDT by ItsTheMediaStupid
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To: Kerberos

I would think they are worried about this guy might come looking for them.



A guy who writes a letter, but does nothing? As compared to actual murderers and rapists?

It doesn't make sense. If they convict him and incarcerate him, he will not be able to get them (for a substantial time.) If they acquit him, he won't be mad at them.


8 posted on 06/24/2004 12:27:06 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Your Friendly Freeper Patent Attorney)
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To: BenLurkin

That if they convict him they are going to get a letter threatening their arrest by some fringe militia? Just a guess.


9 posted on 06/24/2004 12:29:10 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog ('~*-,._.,-*~Just married~*-,._.,-*~)
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To: Billthedrill

You should really read some of this guy's writings. He's not your average responsible gun owner; he's a nutcase who's armed to the teeth and looking to pick a fight that ends with suice-by-cop. If I were on that jury, I wouldn't want him to know anything about me at all.


10 posted on 06/24/2004 12:29:40 PM PDT by NJ_gent
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To: AdamSelene235
"With that, Stanley bowed his head in apparent disappointment

He should have grinned instead and chirped "nothing a P.I. can't cure, heh" just to agitate them even more.

Anti-gun wankers. All of them.

11 posted on 06/24/2004 12:30:16 PM PDT by Windsong (FighterPilot)
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He should have grinned instead and chirped "nothing a P.I. can't cure, heh" just to agitate them even more.

And he'd be cooling his heels in jail for contempt of court for a nice spell, too.

12 posted on 06/24/2004 12:32:51 PM PDT by SedVictaCatoni (Forgot the taste of bread? Ate only meat? Gollum invented the Atkins diet.)
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To: AdamSelene235

That question alone is grounds for a mistrial.


13 posted on 06/24/2004 12:34:48 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Islam delenda est)
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He's not your average responsible gun owner; he's a nutcase who's armed to the teeth and looking to pick a fight that ends with suice-by-cop.

Stanley has been arrested and had his home raided on multiple occasions without any violence.

14 posted on 06/24/2004 12:37:38 PM PDT by AdamSelene235
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To: thoughtomator

"That question alone is grounds for a mistrial."


That it does.


15 posted on 06/24/2004 12:41:16 PM PDT by cripplecreek (you tell em i'm commin.... and hells commin with me.)
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To: NJ_gent

Indeed. And in today's world, if you know somebody's name, and general area of residence like state or metro area (not even that's needed, if it's an unusual name), and have access to the Internet, you'll most likely have their address in 5 minutes, especially if they own their home.


16 posted on 06/24/2004 12:43:09 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: AdamSelene235
Stanley, 49, is on trial on two felony counts of attempting to influence a public servant.

Sounds like every lobbyist in DC should be immediately arrested.
17 posted on 06/24/2004 12:44:04 PM PDT by microgood
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To: NJ_gent

Sanity isn't to be judged by a jury except when used as a defense.


18 posted on 06/24/2004 12:45:12 PM PDT by Old Professer (Interests in common are commonly abused.)
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To: microgood

Not to mention every citizen who has ever written or phoned their rep.


19 posted on 06/24/2004 12:46:50 PM PDT by coloradan (Hence, etc.)
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To: Windsong

C'mon. Give 'em a break. He sent a letter threatening arrest and a trial for treason. Hmmm. Wonder what the penalty for a treason conviction is...

In this day and age, isn't it really prudence that they were exercising?

Or do you freely provide your name and address to strangers who behave oddly?

What'd you say your name and address was?

Too easy and too pat to call them anti-gun wankers.

{ducking}


20 posted on 06/24/2004 12:47:07 PM PDT by dmz
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