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Beaches & Buttheads: Don't bother packing your smokes.
National Review Online ^ | June 24, 2004 | Robert A. Levy

Posted on 06/24/2004 9:32:45 AM PDT by xsysmgr

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1 posted on 06/24/2004 9:32:46 AM PDT by xsysmgr
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2 posted on 06/24/2004 9:35:30 AM PDT by SheLion (Please register to vote! We can't afford to remain silent!!)
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They better ban campfires and beach parties too while they are at it ....

Idiots.

3 posted on 06/24/2004 9:36:14 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (Jesus died for your sins. Mohammed would have you murdered for yours.)
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To: xsysmgr

Yes, by all means let's defend our God-given right to strew the landscape with cigarette butts!

After all, those filter tips will biodegrade in, oh, about 6 or 8 months - what's the problem?


4 posted on 06/24/2004 9:38:55 AM PDT by Redbob (still holding out for the 'self-illuminating, glass-bottomed parking lot' solution to the ME problem)
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To: xsysmgr
One argument for the beach ban goes like this: Cigarette butts are a major source of litter. On cleanup days, volunteers say they pick up an average of more than 300,000 butts along the beach. If so, that's a powerful argument — but against littering, not against smoking.

I disagree. It's a great argument for banning smoking AND littering.

5 posted on 06/24/2004 9:38:56 AM PDT by Huck (Be nice to chubby rodents. You know, woodchucks, guinea pigs, beavers, marmots, porcupines...)
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To: Centurion2000

Let's protect them from those wicked wisps of smoke. Just let the skin cancer take them instead...much better. These idiots don't have a clue.


6 posted on 06/24/2004 9:40:48 AM PDT by codyjacksmom
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. . . defend every grain of sand along the 1,100-mile coastline against cigarette litter.

I wish people were as adamant about defending our borders.

7 posted on 06/24/2004 9:41:27 AM PDT by kevao
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To: Redbob

Did you even bother to read the article? If so, try comprehending it.


8 posted on 06/24/2004 9:43:17 AM PDT by CSM (Liberals may see Saddam's mass graves in Iraq as half-full, but I prefer to see them as half-empty.)
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To: cinFLA

Over here!

Someone's questioning the right of the government to stamp out bad habits again!

Cotton Mather placemarker.


9 posted on 06/24/2004 9:43:48 AM PDT by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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To: Huck

Per your logic we better ban all activity that has a potential to cause litter. No more babies in diapers, no more eating, no more reading books, in fact we better ban clothing. I often see articles of clothing strewn on beaches.

Heck, people disturb the sand, we better ban all human life from the beaches.


10 posted on 06/24/2004 9:44:58 AM PDT by CSM (Liberals may see Saddam's mass graves in Iraq as half-full, but I prefer to see them as half-empty.)
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Road-apples, most of the butts come down stream from the rives/sewer system. not from people on the beach it's just more lets ban this cause it for the children!!
11 posted on 06/24/2004 9:45:55 AM PDT by markman46
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To: Huck

Great, then lets ban soda pops, diapers, food, (the list is endless).


12 posted on 06/24/2004 9:47:30 AM PDT by Lokibob (All typos and spelling errors are mine and copyrighted!!!!)
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I wish people were as adamant about defending our borders.

Agreed. This beach crap is right up there in importance with the transgendered freaks wanting their own bathroom or whether Shreck promotes transvestites. Get a CLUE people we've got a whole LOT more to worry about than crap like this.

13 posted on 06/24/2004 9:50:45 AM PDT by Looking4Truth (NEVER trust Muslims to keep their word.)
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To: Redbob
Better check your Styrofoam at the gate, too. What else?

Damn, I guess we'd better hire a whole buncha' beach cops--maybe one for each half mile of beach.

Since they couldn't cry about second-hand smoke at a beach--what with the ocean BREEZE--they had to figure out some other reason for making smoking a crime.

14 posted on 06/24/2004 9:53:44 AM PDT by bannie (Liberal Media: The Most Dangerous Enemies to America and Freedom)
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To: bannie

BTW: I've never smoked.


15 posted on 06/24/2004 9:55:14 AM PDT by bannie (Liberal Media: The Most Dangerous Enemies to America and Freedom)
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To: Centurion2000

They already have on many L.A. beaches for some time now, unless it's changed in the last 12-13 years.


16 posted on 06/24/2004 9:57:02 AM PDT by kstewskis ("Political correctness is intellectual terrorism..." Mel Gibson)
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To: markman46

Baloney.


17 posted on 06/24/2004 9:57:28 AM PDT by Huck (Be nice to chubby rodents. You know, woodchucks, guinea pigs, beavers, marmots, porcupines...)
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To: CSM
Per your logic we better ban all activity that has a potential to cause litter.

Nope. That's not my thinking. Simple case of cherry picking. Cig smoking is easier to ban, easier to catch offenders, and judging from the stats, a MAJOR source of garbage. It's a quick win. Demanding "logical" consistency to the point of absurdity is a silly debating tactic. In truth, common sense should work. Got half a million butts on the beach? Restrict smoking. Easy.

18 posted on 06/24/2004 10:00:36 AM PDT by Huck (Be nice to chubby rodents. You know, woodchucks, guinea pigs, beavers, marmots, porcupines...)
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To: Lokibob

I think bottles are definitely banned on some beaches. Diapers should be in the bathroom, doncha think?


19 posted on 06/24/2004 10:02:29 AM PDT by Huck (Be nice to chubby rodents. You know, woodchucks, guinea pigs, beavers, marmots, porcupines...)
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To: Huck

Did you even "read" the article, or are you so set in your attitude that it was all just words, words, words...


20 posted on 06/24/2004 10:08:11 AM PDT by the_devils_advocate_666
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