Posted on 06/24/2004 8:28:46 AM PDT by SJackson
Is the Pope Catholic?
Do Clintons lie?
Was Stalin a communist?
Was Hitler anti-semitic?
... etcetera ...
I thought there had to be a preposition in there, but apparently not. The rule is, if you're talking about "him," it's "whom." If you're talking about "he" it's "who." So, the terrorists would vote for "him," not "he," so it's "whom." Ow!
I did find this small consolation:
When in doubt, use who. Why? Because whom only sounds natural when preceded by a preposition - e.g., Give the job to whomever you choose. That is why the literary stars, who work for effect rather than for grammatical points, often commit grammatical errors.I couldn't be accurately described as a "literary star," but it's nice to share my shortcomings with them.
As for the dangling preposition, I ain't even going there.
I have several word documents with various names and pics. Easy to find them that way. Got one for F'ing, the c'toons, etc.
The first uses a preposition to end a sentence with- not good. "For whom" is still the correct form but the form of the whole sentence is wrong which makes the "whom" awkward. These things need to be proofed by someone who is old enough to have been taught grammar in school.
Thanks for the ping!
When I designed this bumper sticker, I was not sure what was correct.
I queried my wife and my father-in-law, who lives with us. Three master's degrees and we couldn't agree either!
My wife suggested typing the phrase in MS Word and trying the grammar correction thingie. That didnt't resolve the question.
I then did a net search for grammar checking sites. I found a couple and ran the phrase. I don't remember the sites that I found via Google but they sort of "approved" the final phrase; albeit, with caveats IIRC!
If Frenchkerry is elected I expect he will dismantle internal security like the Patriot Act and lighten up in Iraq. At home the saracens will have more space to work and there will be another 911 type event. The ketchup president will not react to that militarily nor will any effective security measures by put in place domestically. It will happen again and maybe a third time before a French administration will react. It will react badly and will suffer outright military defeats. Then I expect desperation measures up to and quite possibly including Nukes. We will still ultimately win this war but it will be ultimately much messier here at home and in the rest of the world with a Democrat, especially this Democrat, at the helm.
Actually, for whom is the most correct.
RIGHT ON!
Ping me when the BC04 campaign has the balls to say that Al Qaeda wants Bush to lose and we shouldn't let the terrorists win with a Bush loss.
Agreed, ‘whom’ does sound rather awkward when not preceded by a preposition. It looks like it’s become quite acceptable to use either one in some cases. When it comes to striving to avoid the dangling preposition, I’d use the more natural option (I don’t consider myself an expert at all though).
Sir, that is a rule up with which I shall not put.
/Churchill
When Clinton pulled down his pants
he made the Islamic people see America
as a disgusting perverted nation.
Clinton whipped it out
and now America takes the whipping.
Never Forget
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