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Insurgents kill 66 Iraqis, 3 US troops (Warning, some graphic pix on thread)
Christian Science Monito ^ | , June 24, 6:58am EDT | wire service reports

Posted on 06/24/2004 4:29:59 AM PDT by Graybeard58

Insurgents launched coordinated attacks against police and government buildings across Sunni Muslim areas of Iraq Thursday, killing 66 Iraqis and three US soldiers less than a week before the handover of power.

The Iraqi Health Ministry said 268 people were wounded in the attack, but that tally did not include American injured.

The large number of attacks, mostly directed at Iraqi security services, was a clear sign of just how powerful the insurgency in Iraq remains - and could be the start of a new push to torpedo the June 30 transfer of sovereignty to an interim transitional government.

Some of the heaviest fighting was reported in Baqouba, 35 miles northeast of Baghdad, where two American soldiers were killed and seven wounded, the US 1st Infantry Division said. Attackers also targeted police stations in Ramadi, Mahaweel, and the northern city of Mosul, where car bombs rocked the Iraqi Police Academy, two police stations and the al-Jumhuri hospital.

Khalid Mohammed, an official at the hospital, said dozens of injured were brought there. At least 50 people died and 170 were wounded there, he said. A US soldier was also killed and three were wounded in Mosul.

In other attacks, four Iraqi soldiers were killed in an explosion near a checkpoint manned by Iraqi and American soldiers in the southern Baghdad district of Dora. Three US soldiers tended to what appeared to be a wounded American soldier on the road. The soldier's helmet lay nearby. Black smoke and flames shot up from a burning pickup truck.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: baqouba; iraq; iraqipolice; iraqisecurity; mosul; ramadi
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To: cripplecreek

I didn't think of that. Once the Iraqi government takes authority AND responsibility, they will not be hamstrung by the fear for collateral damage or by the tyranny of public opinion with it's gullible and counterproductive PC demands. Maybe they will make headway on the 'evil THEY know' and be more direct and effective in the effort that an occupier would be doing the same thing.


41 posted on 06/24/2004 5:27:17 AM PDT by SMARTY
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To: Graybeard58; Ragtime Cowgirl

isn't it past time to let the Military do their job and get the politics out?

God Bless our Troops, keep them protected and safe..


42 posted on 06/24/2004 5:27:28 AM PDT by The Mayor (The first step to receiving eternal life is to admit that we don't deserve it.)
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To: SMARTY
as if they would not have attacked us anyway.

You are right on that point. We are going to be under attack here and abroad whatever we do or don't do. War has been declared on the U.S. and our allies plain and simple. We have to root out and kill these evil people wherever in the world they are.

43 posted on 06/24/2004 5:32:23 AM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: SMARTY
Late last night while watching CNN coverage of the goings on in Iraq they mentioned a poll of Iraqis that suggests that a majority want martial law for awhile. We shouldn't forget that the Iraqis have lived under a form of Martial law for some 30 years as it is.

Personally I doubt things would have gotten so bad in Iraq if the terrorists didn't feel that they had friends here.
44 posted on 06/24/2004 5:34:07 AM PDT by cripplecreek (you tell em i'm commin.... and hells commin with me.)
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To: Thebaddog

Yes, we are backing out, but we have to. If the Iraqis are going to have some kind of democracy, they have to be the one's to fight for it.

By the way, was listening to Imus this AM on the way to work. The usual gang was on doing the doom and gloom thing. David "I'm Too Sexy for This White House" Gregory was dooming and glooming. He actually came out and said something to the effect: "it is clear that Americans feel better about Iraq since the June 30th date is approaching, but they shouldn't, things really are bad!!"

Ok David, nevermind teh President predicted that attackes would intensify as June 30th approached. Nevermind that most of us understand what is going on over there. Of course the terrorists are going to try and stop the handover of power. Does the fact that they are fighting so hard against it signal that it is something they fear and thus worth fighting for. Nope David, we just dumb, you and your advanced highschool degree are clearly smarter. Hey, nice hair by the way.


45 posted on 06/24/2004 5:35:25 AM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: veronica
Seriously?

The answer:

Time, geography, the small area of land, informants...

46 posted on 06/24/2004 5:36:14 AM PDT by carton253 (It's time to draw your sword and throw away the scabbard... General TJ Jackson)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
The journalists in Iraq are too scared to go out and get good news - and they don't want to advance an agenda that isn't negative. They also rely on the foreign journalists - who may be supporting of the violence and bloodshed - to do the reporting. When these two factors are counted, it shows a "quagmire" which the MSM don't want to dispute.

What the MSM don't realize to the fullest extent is the level of alternative news that is coming out of Iraq, and it shows in circulation numbers and TV ratings. (why else is FNC kicking everyone else's ***?)

47 posted on 06/24/2004 5:36:26 AM PDT by Maigrey (Daniel Pearle - Nick Berg - Paul Johnson - Kim Sun-il - When will this end?)
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To: veronica
Veronica...

We are destroying them in Iraq.

48 posted on 06/24/2004 5:37:11 AM PDT by carton253 (It's time to draw your sword and throw away the scabbard... General TJ Jackson)
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To: Graybeard58
They do not accept our presence in Iraq as the penalty for 9/11 and claim we made a pre emptive strike on them in Iraq. It will be interesting to see how they JUSTIFY, (like they need to) their continued violence, once the coalition is out of Iraq. Actually, with the wholesale, unconditional lemming-like affirmation of the mass media here and abroad, JUSTIFICATION FOR MURDER is not something the terrorists have ever needed!
49 posted on 06/24/2004 5:37:24 AM PDT by SMARTY
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To: veronica

As much as I admire the Mossad, you have grossly over estimate their ability...


50 posted on 06/24/2004 5:41:14 AM PDT by carton253 (It's time to draw your sword and throw away the scabbard... General TJ Jackson)
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To: cripplecreek
I do not think the Asian or Oriental is up to the kind of independence that we take so much for granted here in the West. Their system of ethics their values, their built-in tolerance for corruption and brutality have been so long practiced and taken for 'business as usual' in gov't., business, etc. that handing them the blueprint for success on the Western model takes too much for granted. Even now, trade and diplomacy with countries like S. Korea, Egypt, China etc. is far from being the level playing field we anticipate and demand in the West. Their understanding of contractual law, as opposed to ours, is one very glaring example of what I mean. Agreements and loyalties do not mean anything to them and bribery is an honorable and encouraged part of dealmaking.
51 posted on 06/24/2004 5:44:57 AM PDT by SMARTY
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To: SMARTY

That is why I think you are going to see a bloodbath when June 30th rolls around. As restrained as the U.S. has been, I have feeling the interim Iraqi Gov. will be brutal. Not many are predicting this. Indeed, most think that they will be weak or pacifist. Not so, I think this is where the Shia population will start to get their revenge.


52 posted on 06/24/2004 5:51:58 AM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: carton253
Time, geography, the small area of land, informants...

...not being dissuaded when the "wedding party" or "civilian casualties" line comes out (notice how the Islamokazi amen corner doesn't even trot those lines out much anymore against Israel)...

53 posted on 06/24/2004 6:01:14 AM PDT by steveegg (Coming soon to Boston - Arkancide)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
I think there have been some very recent and very specific agreements made at the highest levels regarding "rules of engagement" in the coming days.


I picked up a tid bit here:


U.S.: 20 Killed at Iraq Militant Hideout ( Tuesday night precision strike - Fallujah )


. . . on quick read, there are some intriguing bits in this article. Note the exchange between Allawi and GWB. GWB calls Allawi. Allawi raises the matter of the assassination threat. Then this:

"McClellan did not provide Bush's response but said Allawi 'is determined to confront these terrorist threats.'"

There was another posting of the same AP report that attributed the sentiment to Bush instead of Allawi, but this report was datelined later and signed with a byline. In any event, I'm sure they knew this was coming, and this looks like a quick huddle to me.

54 posted on 06/24/2004 6:01:54 AM PDT by Cap Huff
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To: jeffers
It seems a little early to be Monday morning quarterbacking

For some folks, it's never too early.

55 posted on 06/24/2004 6:07:48 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: veronica; bitt
How is it that Israel knows where every Hamas thug is, and takes them out with pinpoint strikes,...

A little hyperbolic, there, Veronica. Calm down. If what you were saying is true then they'd have stopped the PLO, Hamas etc 25 years ago....

Tell me where every cockroach and mouse is in your house RIGHT NOW and then I'll believe it's possible to know where every terrorist is in Iraq.

56 posted on 06/24/2004 6:25:26 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: af_vet_rr; ALOHA RONNIE; American in Israel; American Soldier; archy; armymarinemom; BCR #226; ...

ping


57 posted on 06/24/2004 6:28:03 AM PDT by Cannoneer No. 4 (I've lost turret power; I have my nods and my .50. Hooah. I will stay until relieved. White 2 out.)
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To: FlipWilson
"...I think you are going to see a bloodbath when June 30th..."

The new government will not have the constraints we've labored under. My prediction: let the new authority clamp down, make a few examples of some of these miscreants, and things will quiet down.

Thanks to cnn, ted and john kerry, npr, the french, the congress hog-tying the military and demoralizing us, the terrorists have been able to openly denounce us and advocate murder. After the 30th, the first mouth that opens in defiance of the government will taste the butt of a rifle. They won't need many such demonstrations.

58 posted on 06/24/2004 6:28:09 AM PDT by tsomer
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To: tsomer
I believe you are right about when the Iraqis take over and also that it will apply to Saadam - A quick trial and execution.
59 posted on 06/24/2004 6:34:53 AM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: Graybeard58
The first mistake we made was to not keep the existing Iraq military organizations intact with new ledership. Anyone who has read Machiavelli recognizes his truism that: ...nothing is harder than to establish an existing order...those losing power fiercely resist and those gaining power see it as only a possibility..." The idea should have been to keep the form the same and replace the leadership.

Now we are about to make another mistake--preventing the provisional government from taking harsh measures to protect its citizenry. By taking some areas, such as in the Sunni triangle, and submitting them to military law including summary executions in Arab countires has been the traditional way to settle lawlessness. Unless the new Iraqi government can protect its citiens not only against terrorism but also against theft, kidnapping and general intimidation nothing good can be expected of this new government.

IMHO starting off with a concerted effort to control the law breakers is a requirement for success. Go back 150 years to the American frontier and you will see harsh sentences and overwhelming force used to provide security for the law abiding. Human nature, at its fundemental basis, differs little. There are always fringe groups that seek power regardless of cost. Keeping them in check is one of the few, good reasons for government.

60 posted on 06/24/2004 6:42:41 AM PDT by shrinkermd
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