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I can't believe this hasn't been here on FR before now. I did a search and didn't find it. If I missed it please let me know.

How can we MAKE them cover this?

Has Rush talked about it?

I haven't seen it even in any other conservative media.

1 posted on 06/24/2004 12:35:11 AM PDT by Veritas_est
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Well I did some further searching and I did find the story it four other places. This has to be the biggest story of the year. Why isn't it being screamed about on the conservative talk shows?

Has Hannity covered it?

2 posted on 06/24/2004 12:42:14 AM PDT by Veritas_est (Truth is)
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The idea that Saddam moved his WMDs out of the country and into Syria has been on FR for months. It's been hinted at by an number of sources in our government and in other governments. As an understatement, I'll say this. 'It explains a lot.'

Why we don't do anything about that is another subject entirely. I'm sure you can come up with some pretty reasonable answers, if you put yourself in Bush's shoes.

3 posted on 06/24/2004 12:45:32 AM PDT by Steel Wolf (ICDC = I Can't Do Crap)
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This is being ignored (spiked) by every outlet..IT IS THE story of the year and even the administration isn't trumpeting it. What a waste...WMD exist we know where the Un knows where everyone knows we just don't want to admit it cause then Bush would be right...Blame it on the French I do


4 posted on 06/24/2004 12:47:31 AM PDT by jnarcus
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hmmmm, can anyone vouch for the honesty of this publication? I've not heard of this before, and it sounds too good to be true. Which means it probably is. That would also explain why it wasn't being shown on Fox.


6 posted on 06/24/2004 12:49:48 AM PDT by sociotard (I am the one true Sociotard)
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The OTHER side of this story was that while the liberals forced Bush to delay in order to exhaust every possible diplomatic solution, Saddam was shipping out the WMD to who knows where? A solid case could be made that the liberal establishment has REALLY put this country at tremendous risk by not allowing Bush destroy these weapons.
9 posted on 06/24/2004 12:56:43 AM PDT by the_Watchman
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10 posted on 06/24/2004 12:58:01 AM PDT by BJungNan (Stop Spam - Start Charging for Email - You get 2000 a month for free, then you pay!)
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We can only hope that the Bush administration is waiting until after the Democrat convention when the anti-Iraq war rhetoric is going to be firmly established, to spring this on the press.

The results could be to totally destroy the Democrat party. If this were well timed, the Democrats could be a thing of the past.
11 posted on 06/24/2004 1:00:52 AM PDT by the_Watchman
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PING to Xzins, who has been most redoubtable in gathering together a selection of probative FR Articles regarding the hard evidences of Saddam's links to Terrorists and his distribution of WMD materials thereto.

A most interesting and disturbing Article.

On the other hand, this article does raise a difficult question:

Was the major effect of the War (or, at least, the many months spent stalling in an attempt for UN approval) the resultant export of thousands of tons of Iraqi WMD components to Worldwide Terrorist Organizations?

At the risk, as always, of playing "Monday-morning Quarterback" -- I remains unconvinced that a $200-billion (and counting) Conventional War was the best way to handle the "Saddam Threat".

Perhaps a selective recission of Executive Order 12333, thus allowing for the Assassination of Saddam and a few other notable Unworthies, would have been the better option -- leaving "Baghdad Bob" in charge (heck, we're already contracting former Iraqi Generals into the New Regime), and the WMDs in Baghdad. Still a Threat, yes -- but primarily a Threat to the Iranians.

Instead, we have fought a 200-billion (and counting) Conventional War, and the only Result we know for certain is apparently this:

The Horse has left the Barn... and meanwhile, our Politicians still ain't even halfway serious about "Border Control".

12 posted on 06/24/2004 1:04:16 AM PDT by OrthodoxPresbyterian (We are Unworthy Servants; We have only done Our Duty)
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I find myself in the position of not really believing this 'cause I aint seen it on the telly.

I'd sure like it to be true,not because it's a good thing but because it might shut some of the anti-American claptrap we have to listen to here in Oz up for 5 minutes.

13 posted on 06/24/2004 1:09:22 AM PDT by mitch5501 (by the grace of God,I am what I am)
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Of course the POS inspectors could not find this stuff when it was in place.


19 posted on 06/24/2004 2:24:59 AM PDT by Lion Den Dan
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"Late last week, the UN Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission (UNMOVIC) briefed the Security Council on Saddam's lightning-fast dismantling of missile and WMD sites before and during the war. UNMOVIC executive chairman Demetrius Perricos detailed not only the export of thousands of tons of missile components, nuclear reactor vessels and fermenters for chemical and biological warheads, but also the discovery of many (but not most) of these items - with UN inspection tags still on them -- as far afield as Jordan, Turkey and even Holland."

If you go HERE, d/l & view the UNMOVIC doc, you can see pictures of one of the banned missile's engines on Page 4, found in a Netherlands scrap yard.

22 posted on 06/24/2004 2:48:24 AM PDT by Mudcat
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Leftist American Public: (with hands over ears) I'm not listening, I'm not listening, LALALALALALALALALALALALALALALA!!!


26 posted on 06/24/2004 3:13:17 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (Don't worry-- Moderate Islam will save us!)
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The “Anybody but Bush” crowd:
I refuse to believe such blatant Bush propaganda until I see it on ABC, CBS, CNN and NBC!
32 posted on 06/24/2004 3:37:55 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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========= Chemical Warhead found in Kirkuk =============

Chemical warhead found at an Iraqi air base, marked with a green band,
the symbol for chemical weaponry
. Trace amounts of a nerve agent were found
at two spots along the ~meter-long warhead. These amounts are consistent with
leakage from the chemically armed weapon. A 13-foot missile was found next to it.


Also found in Iraq:

* A clandestine network of laboratories and safehouses within the Iraqi Intelligence Service
that contained equipment subject to UN monitoring and suitable for continuing CBW research.

* A prison laboratory complex, possibly used in human testing of BW agents, that Iraqi officials
working to prepare for UN inspections were explicitly ordered not to declare to the UN.

* Reference strains of biological organisms concealed in a scientist's home,
one of which can be used to produce biological weapons.

* New research on BW-applicable agents, Brucella and Congo Crimean Hemorrhagic Fever (CCHF),
and continuing work on ricin and aflatoxin were not declared to the UN.

* Documents and equipment, hidden in scientists' homes, that would have been useful in
resuming uranium enrichment by centrifuge and electromagnetic isotope separation (EMIS).

* A line of UAVs not fully declared at an undeclared production facility and an admission
that they had tested one of their declared UAVs out to a range of 500 km, 350 km beyond the permissible limit.

* Continuing covert capability to manufacture fuel propellant useful only for prohibited SCUD variant missiles,
a capability that was maintained at least until the end of 2001 and that cooperating Iraqi scientists
have said they were told to conceal from the UN.

* Plans and advanced design work for new long-range missiles with ranges up to at least 1000 km -
well beyond the 150 km range limit imposed by the UN. Missiles of a 1000 km range would have allowed
Iraq to threaten targets through out the Middle East, including Ankara, Cairo, and Abu Dhabi.

Clandestine attempts between late-1999 and 2002 to obtain from North Korea technology
related to 1,300 km range ballistic missiles --probably the No Dong -- 300 km range anti-ship cruise missiles,
and other prohibited military equipment.


Still missing based on the UNSCOM report to the UN Security Council in January 1999,
when the UN inspectors left Iraq in 1998, they had been unable to account for:

• up to 360 tons of bulk chemical warfare agents, including 1.5 tons of VX nerve agent;

• up to 3,000 tons of precursor chemicals, including approximately 300 tons which,
in the Iraqi chemical warfare program, were unique to the production of VX;

• growth media procured for biological agent production (enough to produce
over three times the 8,500 litres of anthrax spores Iraq admitted to UN inspectors to having manufactured);

• over 30,000 special munitions for delivery of chemical and biological agents;

• 20 al-Hussein missles with a range of 650 km, in violation
of UN Security Council Resolution 687 (Iraq had told UNSCOM that it filled these warheads with anthrax and botulinum);

• 2,850 tons of mustard gas, 210 tons of tabun, and 795 tons of sarin and cyclosarin;

• development of the Al-Samoud short-range missle (which had the capability to fly beyond the 150 km allowed by UN resolutions)

34 posted on 06/24/2004 4:05:54 AM PDT by Diogenesis (We do only what we are meant to do)
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Pass this along ping..................!!!

35 posted on 06/24/2004 4:08:25 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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36 posted on 06/24/2004 4:14:52 AM PDT by The Coopster
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NOTE THE DATE OF THIS ARTICLE!!
World Tribune.com

Report: U.S suspects Iraqi WMD in Lebanon's Bekaa Valley

SPECIAL TO WORLD TRIBUNE.COM
Tuesday, August 26, 2003

U.S. intelligence suspects Iraq's weapons of mass destruction have finally been located.

Unfortunately, getting to them will be nearly impossible for the United States and its allies, because the containers with the strategic materials are not in Iraq.

Instead they are located in Lebanon's heavily-fortified Bekaa Valley, swarming with Iranian and Syrian forces, and Hizbullah and ex-Iraqi agents, U.S. intelligence first identified a stream of tractor-trailer trucks moving from Iraq to Syria to Lebaon in January 2003. The significance of this sighting did not register on the CIA at the time.

U.S. intelligence sources believe the area contains extended-range Scud-based missiles and parts for chemical and biological warheads.

Mutually-lucrative Iraqi-Syrian arms transactions are nothing new. Firas Tlas, son of Syrian Defense Minister Mustafa Tlas, has been the key to Syria's rogue alliance with Iraq. He and Assad made hundreds of millions of dollars selling weapons, oil and drugs to and from Iraq, according to the May 13, 2003 edition of Geostrategy-Direct.com.

The CIA now believes a multi-million dollar deal between Iraq and Syria provided for the hiding and safekeeping of Saddam's strategic weapons.

Not surprisingly, U.S. inquiries in Beirut and Syria are being met with little substantive response, U.S. officials said.


37 posted on 06/24/2004 4:27:33 AM PDT by datura (Battlefield justice is what our enemies deserve. If you win, you live. If you lose, you die.)
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You can find the UN report upon which this report is based is linked from a World Tribune article on the same subject dated June 11, 2004 and entitled, "UN Inspectors: Saddam Shipped Out WMD Before War and After.


39 posted on 06/24/2004 4:34:43 AM PDT by wjeanw
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Even though the UN says they do exist, now spread around the world.

This is truly frightening news.

41 posted on 06/24/2004 4:41:36 AM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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They can't cover it, it might bump the Abu Graib scandal off the front pages. It's only WMDs you know, it can only kill millions of people, it's not like it's something serious like pink panties on the head of a terrorist.


42 posted on 06/24/2004 5:36:34 AM PDT by McGavin999 (If Kerry can't deal with the "Republican Attack Machine" how is he going to deal with Al Qaeda)
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