Posted on 06/22/2004 9:47:27 AM PDT by Maigrey
I'd think the euro journalists would be apologized to, fed, offered a limo ride back but the Halliburton employees, I think they're be some hostage swaps happening with them. No news yet?
No. I do not believe it is to blame for the beheadings, nor do I believe it is the cause for most of the attacks on American soldiers.
What I believe it did do is make our task more difficult, for the following reasons:
It makes it much more difficult for the Iraqis to trust our guys, and therefore much more difficult for our guys to gather good intel.
It also makes it less likely that Iraqis will turn in bad guys -- why should they, if a bunch of foreign prison guards are going to mistreat them?
I also believe that it has been an provocation for some fence-sitting Iraqis to go over to the salamikaze side, and probably has pissed some of them off enough to attempt attacks on our guys.
Does that answer your question?
has any of the pix came out yet? or r there any links?
Exactly.
And to emphasize the warped perspective of the liberal media that exagerated the minor "crimes" of panties on the head while ignoring beheadings and new footage of Saddams's REAL torture, for purely political purposes.
This needs to be illustrated MORE, not less to show the inverted morality of the left and the liberal media.
As an afterthought I would Jam every Arab language broadcast and flood them with the video of the pigs feeding on the militant's bodies in a 24/7 continuous loop. I would also fuel up the B52 and drop tons of leaflets with graphic images showung them what happens when they "F" with the USA and Americans!
It's time to round them up. All of them from everywhere. NONE of us know in North America if ANY of these "immigrants" are terrorists. I say, consider them ALL terrorits. Round them up, ship them out and then vaporize them.!!
I gather that Bush did have a statement, finally. Although nothing he can say will reassure anyone unless it's 'bombing will start in five minutes', and that's unlikely at this point. Esp. when we're handing the country back to Iraq in another week. That's the thing, though, the Iraqis have to police their country or ask us for help, and that won't be popular with anyone. We're in for a couple of rough months. Let's hope Kerry keeps sticking his foot in his mouth.
You think like I do. Action must be swift and final. However, HOW do we get the liberal chit we having living all around us to understand?
I read somewhere yesterday that the Iraqis were weary of conforming to the coalition's sympathy and respect for life, and were anxious to take over the reins in order to mete harsher justice to the bad guys.
The ultimate source of support may well be the same, as you have also noted before, as MoveOn.Org and Mr. Moore. The international Communist movement is hard at work these days, fomenting resurgence and attempting to neutralize the West and its allies.
Let them spend a week in Falluja picketing for free speech.
Watch Allawi and crew kickass.
No more Bremer's craven capitulation to clerics and placing them on a pedestal.
Genocide, atrocity, mass murder and extermination are sacred socialist words used as invectives, usually directed at those thought of the enemies of socialism.
When destroying barbarians these terms are irrelevant and have no meaning.
The best way to end war and ensure peace is to kill the enemy.
I've been going over this thread. I think that we are at a critical cross roads as a people. In spite of a bloody beginning with an amazing blood bath not even 100 years after that, we have become addicted to technology and to an approach that is the way of the bureaucrat, the shop keeper or the academic. The warrior is, overall, marginalized and does a dirty business which we really don't want to have anything to do with. A liberal, secular humanist wave of pacifistic mentality has swept over us including many here on the supposed Right. What is needed is a drastic rethinking regarding how we defend ourselves as individuals, families, communities, as a nation and as a civilization. We need to ask ourselves the question - technology is fine, but where shall we develop a sintered, hardened, will? There are things we can tap into - our own early history, the ways of the Plains and other Indian tribes of the US West, even the ways of the samurai. This thinking is foreign to most latter day, soft, shells of men, including even many here at FR. Skills in true martial excellence, using things like naked kill and sword fighting with grace and power, are a given, if we are to present a new face to the forces who seek to destroy the US and the West. For us to succeed, a very illiberal mentality will be needed. That does not mean, as seemingly implied by some seemingly very emotional and ultimately, liberal, posters here, that we shall become Nazis. When a people whose basis for society is something as morally well founded as Western Civilization based on Judeo-Christianity and English Common Law, I should think we'd be willing to go to some selected extremes in order to protect ourselves and overcome the forces who seek our demise. The brave knights carrying the cross of St. George on their shields were not Nazis! To those who coucil a limp wristed protracted negotiation and restraint, get a grip! Do you even understand the concept of just war? It seems you don't!
I think it's time to start flattening their idol Mecca. Piece by piece --- next hostage taken, we tell them to release him unharmed within 8 hours or such-and-such mosque or building in Mecca goes. And if they don't obey, then blow up the building. If the so-called moderate Muslims care about the building, they'll have to hold the terrorists to blame ---- or if they don't --- we'll know they weren't moderates if they don't turn on the terrorists at that point. If they defend the beheaders and murdereres --- then they're with them.
"S. Koreans are not the Spanish".
Exactly! Also, S. Koreans are not the politically-correct, kinder and gentler mushy, timid U.S. military leaders.
Good plan!!
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Yes, exactly right. It really is that simple, yet so difficult for some to comprehend.
When, exactly, was it ever a religion of peace?
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