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No matter how many times you repost the same thing, time and time and time again.

It's a nervous reflex I have, when my questions are begged.

Let me ask you this. If the President had said:
"Every adult with cancer must have an individualized plan of care coordinating services among programs and across agencies."

Would you have assumed that he was proposing every American to have federally subsidized cancer screenings?

Probably not, since I haven't made that claim with mental illness. I've noted several times that President Bush would like to impose a mandate on private insurance companies to pick up part of the tab.
What I would ask, regarding your cancer hypothetical, is if "every adult with cancer must have an individualized plan of care coordinating services among programs and across agencies," how can that be done without universal screening for cancer?
I don't see another way, do you?

"Probably not, since I haven't made that claim with mental illness.

Oh really? See YOUR POST #611, posted in full so as not to take it out of context.

"You highlighted a question:

"How can all Americans who need mental health treatment be located unless all Americans are screened? Given the President's goals, the eventual step must necessarily be universal screening, once this expansion in the purpose and mission of the federal government is undertaken."

Got an answer?

"I still wonder why the author of this article, would choose not to sign it. Why? The AP frequently has articles that are unsigned. So does Reuters.

"Links have been posted to the President's speech announcing the formation of this commission, and his reasons for doing so, which aren't significantly different from what's written in the article at the top of the thread. Nor is the commision's report.

"It's only WND" didn't really hunt.

611 posted on 06/22/2004 3:25:36 PM CDT by Sabertooth

Would you have assumed that he was proposing every American to have federally subsidized cancer screenings?

Probably not, since I haven't made that claim with mental illness. I've noted several times that President Bush would like to impose a mandate on private insurance companies to pick up part of the tab.
What I would ask, regarding your cancer hypothetical, is if "every adult with cancer must have an individualized plan of care coordinating services among programs and across agencies," how can that be done without universal screening for cancer?

Logically analyzing this, I'd suspect that if the cancer hypothesis were enacted into law, the insurance companies would screen the dickens out of everyone, simply to keep their costs down.

I therefore submit that if "mental health" (broadened to include everything from coffee-drinking to "embracing adulthood" or however that nonsense went) were mandated for universal coverage, yeah, the insurance carriers would definitely screen the crap out of us, to "nip it in the bud" and contain their costs.

What I would ask, regarding your cancer hypothetical, is if "every adult with cancer must have an individualized plan of care coordinating services among programs and across agencies," how can that be done without universal screening for cancer? I don't see another way, do you?

I don't know if you're going to believe me, but in the medical field (and, I would argue, in layman's terms as well), the phrase "every person with cancer" (or mental illness, or any other disease) is generally accepted to mean "every person diagnosed with cancer (or mental illness, etc.)."

You may, for example, have a couple of cavities in your mouth right now that you don't know about, and won't ever know about until the next time you visit a dentist for a checkup, a cleaning, something like that. That doesn't mean the Tooth Cops are going to come after you before that making sure they haven't missed any opportunities to perform a filling and get some cash from your insurance or Medicare for it.