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Bush to screen population for mental illness
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | June 21, 2004

Posted on 06/21/2004 10:19:15 PM PDT by JohnHuang2

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To: JohnHuang2

WTF?


161 posted on 06/22/2004 12:06:29 AM PDT by Musket
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To: California Patriot

LOL... Pass the Prozac.


162 posted on 06/22/2004 12:07:39 AM PDT by Mockingbird For Short
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To: k2blader

There are clearly people who have mental disorders in our country, just as there are blind, deaf and crippled individuals. I would imagine a doctor, with far more experience than you or I would make such a determination. Who would pay for it? According to the report on this thread, President Bush thinks it's up to you, me and every other taxpayer. It's not my decision - guess you'll have to take it up with him.


163 posted on 06/22/2004 12:08:24 AM PDT by Az. Mike
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To: Az. Mike
Believe me, if I knew a way to get back to a time when communities pulled together to help each other, I'd be the first to lead the charge. There are a lot of good people out there (and here on this site), that keep the spirit of 'community' alive, so maybe there's hope yet.

Take hope! The "community" still exists. Your family, church, neighbors, those you see around you daily. :-)

I'm sorry if I came across as harsh. I have a strong skepticism of the way "government" handles our tax money. I believe too much of it is wasted, lost in the "shuffle", or never really helps the people it's intended for.

164 posted on 06/22/2004 12:11:54 AM PDT by k2blader (My parents are borderline Bushbots, but I love 'em anyway. :-)
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To: Az. Mike
I would imagine a doctor, with far more experience than you or I would make such a determination. Who would pay for it? According to the report on this thread, President Bush thinks it's up to you, me and every other taxpayer. It's not my decision - guess you'll have to take it up with him.

Completely agree, and will do, if the need arises.

165 posted on 06/22/2004 12:14:08 AM PDT by k2blader (My parents are borderline Bushbots, but I love 'em anyway. :-)
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To: Howlin

LOL. Go to bed!


166 posted on 06/22/2004 12:15:03 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: kcvl

If it's truly as straightforward as that, no problem. But proposals like this usually grow into monsters, by the time they wend their way through Congress. I think I'll reserve judgement, until I see what they plan to add to it.


167 posted on 06/22/2004 12:15:22 AM PDT by Az. Mike
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To: JohnHuang2
The commission said, "Each year, young children are expelled from preschools and childcare facilities for severely disruptive behaviors and emotional disorders." Schools, the panel concluded, are in a "key position" to screen the 52 million students and 6 million adults who work at the schools.

This is just horrifying, really. Preschool children? So a precocious youngster will just need to be "calmed down" a little; with drugs that have not been tested as to their longterm effects on small children.

Any guesses as to the "screening" guys? I bet it includes "so how do Mommy and Daddy discipline you?"; "does Daddy hunt with guns?"; "do Mommy and Daddy ever yell at each other?"

Pediatricians have already tried this; and folks have changed doctors because of it. When the liberals in public schools get involved, that will be another story altogether.

168 posted on 06/22/2004 12:17:26 AM PDT by garandgal
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To: Mockingbird For Short

I oppose the expansion of socialism within our nation, which would be exactly what a new taxpayer-funded "mental health" program would be.

Why not just not push for such a program?

Easy as pie. :-)


169 posted on 06/22/2004 12:22:30 AM PDT by k2blader (My parents are borderline Bushbots, but I love 'em anyway. :-)
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To: garandgal
Any guesses as to the "screening" guys? I bet it includes "so how do Mommy and Daddy discipline you?"; "does Daddy hunt with guns?"; "do Mommy and Daddy ever yell at each other?"

I think you have it pegged.

170 posted on 06/22/2004 12:23:46 AM PDT by k2blader (My parents are borderline Bushbots, but I love 'em anyway. :-)
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To: k2blader
The "community" still exists. Your family, church, neighbors, those you see around you daily. :-)

I think maybe I AM a bit cynical, but my reason is that, as for family, mine (for instance) is spread out from Ohio to TX with NONE in my own town, and I have a feeling many families are like mine. As for Church, the churches I've had experience with give all their money to missionaries or it goes into a building fund. And neighbors? Do people actually know their neighbors these days? As for how the gov't spends my hard-earned money, I share your skepticism.

And now, this message by Jack Handey: "Dad always thought laughter was the best medicine, which I guess was why several of us died of tuberculosis." --Jack Handey

171 posted on 06/22/2004 12:24:10 AM PDT by Mockingbird For Short
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To: thoughtomator

He probably didn't recommend this. Do you ALWAYS accept things that you read at face value?


172 posted on 06/22/2004 12:24:24 AM PDT by texasflower (in the event of the rapture.......the Bush White House will be unmanned)
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To: k2blader

No offense taken. As I've grown older, I've found myself growing more 'skeptical', as well. I do have faith, regardless of any cynicism, that right will prevail, eventually - I just wish it would hurry up! (I didn't say I was patient - just long suffering!) :)


173 posted on 06/22/2004 12:24:24 AM PDT by Az. Mike
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To: Az. Mike
Just getting the purse strings from Medicaid is a start. They're experts on wasting taxpayer's money.

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On February 1, 2001, President Bush announced the New Freedom Initiative, part of a nationwide effort to remove barriers to community living for people with disabilities. It represents an important step to ensure that all Americans have the opportunity to learn and develop skills, engage in productive work, choose where they live, and participate in community life. Goals for people with disabilities include: increasing access to assistive and universally designed technologies; expanding education, transportation and home ownership opportunities; and promoting full access to community life. Please see the Center for Faith-based and Community Initiatives for additional information.

In April 2002, President Bush also established the New Freedom Commission on Mental Health. The Commission is to conduct a comprehensive study of the United States mental health service delivery system, including both the private and public sector providers, and advise the President on methods for improving the system. To learn more about the President's New Freedom Commission on Mental Health, please visit the web site: www.mentalhealthcommission.gov.

174 posted on 06/22/2004 12:27:52 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: ETERNAL WARMING

Farah is a hysterical nutcase in my opinion. He jumps the gun all the time and never corrects things later.

I HATE his articles with a passion. He is too emotional.

He does indeed hate George Bush and I have read plenty of his stuff that says he will not under any circumstance vote for George Bush.

If you read it all the time, you have seen it too.


175 posted on 06/22/2004 12:28:07 AM PDT by texasflower (in the event of the rapture.......the Bush White House will be unmanned)
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To: Howlin

Farah is always jumping the gun and you are very correct when you say he hates George Bush.

I am always shocked to see people believing things that he writes and even defending him.

I can't read his articles. He is way too emotional and even sometimes hysterical in the way that he writes.


176 posted on 06/22/2004 12:30:50 AM PDT by texasflower (in the event of the rapture.......the Bush White House will be unmanned)
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To: murdoog

Has anyone considered that this writer is WRONG?

He hates the President. Why in the hell is everyone trusting this emotional whack job?

I am so tired of reading his crap.


177 posted on 06/22/2004 12:33:48 AM PDT by texasflower (in the event of the rapture.......the Bush White House will be unmanned)
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To: A CA Guy

Exactly.


178 posted on 06/22/2004 12:34:41 AM PDT by texasflower (in the event of the rapture.......the Bush White House will be unmanned)
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To: JohnHuang2
The panel found that "despite their prevalence, mental disorders often go undiagnosed" and recommended comprehensive mental health screening for "consumers of all ages," including preschool children.

The commission said, "Each year, young children are expelled from preschools and childcare facilities for severely disruptive behaviors and emotional disorders."

Schools, the panel concluded, are in a "key position" to screen the 52 million students and 6 million adults who work at the schools.

This reminds me of the flap that occured when the global warming report was released. It caught the Administration temporarily off guard, but did no real damage.

The reason it did no damage is that the Adm. distanced itself from the report and I think pretty much ignored it. AFAIK, none of its recommendations were carried out.

There are parts of this report that are worrisome, such as a Federal program for mental health screening of all kids in the schools.

Will intrusive questions about the family be asked such as gun ownership, smoking, and drinking?

Will ex TSA screeners be retrained as Federal mental health screeners? (only half joking)

The point is that the President's people ought to get on top of this and ditch the idea of mass screenings loud and clear.

If they do, then I don't think there'll be much of a problem.

179 posted on 06/22/2004 12:35:14 AM PDT by Ken H
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To: Cobra64

You assume that just because this "writer" says it that it must be true?

Read the initiative for heaven's sake. Does it say anything at all about screening and drugging the population?

No. It says it is designed to help those that need it.

Believe it or not, if the mentally ill are treated properly, your cost as a taxpayer is much less than one not treated.

Why is everyone believing this guy?


180 posted on 06/22/2004 12:40:00 AM PDT by texasflower (in the event of the rapture.......the Bush White House will be unmanned)
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