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1 posted on 06/21/2004 5:41:57 PM PDT by freedom44
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Media salivation aside, the Constitution and Libertarian parties are hardly an issue in this election, IMHO.


2 posted on 06/21/2004 5:45:07 PM PDT by SunStar (Democrats piss me off!)
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An 'Accidental Democrat'. Hopefully, there are not too many like him.....as much as Reuters and Al Queada wish there were.


3 posted on 06/21/2004 5:45:22 PM PDT by San Jacinto
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The media will try any angle they can to undermine Bush, while downplaying the serious threat Nader-Camejo will pose to Johm Kerry. Or the serious threat Kerry poses to himself, for that matter.


4 posted on 06/21/2004 5:48:16 PM PDT by counterpunch (The CouNTeRPuNcH Collection - www.freepgs.com/counterpunch)
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Seems like the Republican Party isn't doing enough to keep some conservatives' votes!


6 posted on 06/21/2004 5:49:24 PM PDT by xrp
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This has been a growing trend for some time now. If the Republican party doesn't stop acting like the Democrats/Socialists they will soon lose it all.

Too many RINOS's and too many spineless representatives, they need to go.


9 posted on 06/21/2004 5:53:20 PM PDT by unixfox (Close the borders, problems solved!)
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I would like to see the Constitution Party get more coverage. I was one of 900 or so in the entire state of KY to vote for Howard Phillips in 2000. If it looked closer in KY I would have voted for Bush. He won with over 60%. I'll probably vote for Bush this time. Don't want to hear all the gargage about the popular vote again. Their platform is much more in line with the majority of Freepers than the Republican Part.


10 posted on 06/21/2004 5:53:31 PM PDT by RockDoc
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The libertarians have been around for years yet they have rarely been a factor. Why is this year any different.


11 posted on 06/21/2004 5:53:59 PM PDT by THE MODERATE
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Yeah, and they'll all put on "Don't blame me, I voted for an obscure 3rd party candidate" after President Kerry loses the first city to a nuke. If the election of 2000 didn't demonstrate that EVERY vote counts, then nothing will. Get each state to switch over from winner takes all electoral votes to a scheme like Maine's or Nebraska's where the winner in each congressional district gets that electoral vote (and the winner of the popular vote gets the two "senatorial" votes) and THEN your 3rd party vote would count for something. The time for "sending a message" to the Republican party is over - that was the primary. In the general election, a Constitution party vote (other than in ME and NE) is as good as a vote for Kerry. Sorry, but that is reality in 2004.


12 posted on 06/21/2004 5:55:23 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Ronald Wilson Reagan (1911-2004))
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The Libertarian Party is filled with moral-liberals; there is nothing conservative about them except the occasional dupe.
14 posted on 06/21/2004 5:56:08 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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Oh ReuterRoter, Gee, I thought this was worth reading. Whisteling past the graveyard!

The leftist press reporting propaganda from the left again, as news....well, they can't find that! They couldn't find the news with both hands.

16 posted on 06/21/2004 5:59:09 PM PDT by timydnuc ("Give me Liberty, or give me death"!)
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"Bush's) views no longer reflect my views, and I need to vote my principles."

Good for him. God knows we need more men of decency and principle in this country. Peroutka has my vote.. he spoke with judge Roy Moore last month in Nevada and is coming to CA next month. I know,.. people will cry "but he can't win. you're wasting your vote!"

In reply to that I tell them, "NO, I am not wasting my vote. you're wasting yours". People have not researched the issues and what is really going on in this country. They have no grasp of sovereignty or its importance.

Gun control, socialistic spending, appointing flaming homosexuals to prominant positions, open borders, FTAA, rewarding Pryor after he prosecuted Roy Moore, re-joining and funding UNESCO,. I kind of pity the mesmerized Bush loyalists; because although i do think that many of them are well intentioned, they really don't have a clue.

People are too busy eating their cheetos , watching ball games and american idol to really study what is happening to our republic.

19 posted on 06/21/2004 6:03:36 PM PDT by MindFire
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Even the darling of the Libertarian Party, Ron Paul, decided that the only way he could have any influence was to run as a Republican.

There are idealists and there are realists. Third party voters are not the latter.

20 posted on 06/21/2004 6:06:03 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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Reuters is the most liberal news organization west of Paris. They have joined in the concerted efforts of wealthy liberals to divide the Republican vote before this election.

Liberals have set up and funded fake conservative organizations and websites to use as fronts for disseminating false information (usually studies they commissioned) among Republican voters.

Among these groups are the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR), Numbers-USA, the Center for Immigration Studies (CIS), ProjectUSA and the Coalition for the Future American Worker (CFAW), and the Pioneer Fund.

In addition we have the John Birch Society, the KKK, the Border Patrol groups, the militia organizations etc...,

Their primary wedge issue is racism, just like Buchanan's was. They try to legitimize anti-Hispanic bigotry with transparently shallow arguments that they only oppose "ILLEGAL" immigrants, Afterall, everyone should agree that it's OK to hate someone who is "ILLEGAL". Then they go on to criticize ALL Mexican immigrants for lowering wages, littering, using hospitals, diluting our western culture, etc...

But you know they are just using the word "ILLEGAL" to hide their racism when they won't agree that changing the law to make them legal would cure their objection.

This thread will soon be filled with the usual malcontents whining about the usual phony complaints and vowing never to vote for Bush.

26 posted on 06/21/2004 6:13:29 PM PDT by bayourod (Can the 9/11 Commission connect the dots on Iraq or do they require a 3-D picture?)
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It's too late for them to get on the ballot in most states. I don't even think Nader will be on ballot in all states.


31 posted on 06/21/2004 6:19:27 PM PDT by NavySEAL F-16 ("Proud to be a Reagan American")
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Any defections from Bush's base would be "minuscule" morons
32 posted on 06/21/2004 6:20:00 PM PDT by Tamzee (Noonan on Reagan, "...his leadership changed the world... As president, he was a giant.")
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It's too late for them to get on the ballot in most states. I don't even think Nader will be on ballot in all states.


33 posted on 06/21/2004 6:20:04 PM PDT by NavySEAL F-16 ("Proud to be a Reagan American")
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"We can't keep letting illegals come in; we need troops on the border," Murphy said in a telephone interview. "(Bush's) views no longer reflect my views, and I need to vote my principles."

Attaboy, Murph!!!

37 posted on 06/21/2004 6:23:04 PM PDT by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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lol, they just wish.


49 posted on 06/21/2004 6:46:35 PM PDT by tiki
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"In 2000, the Libertarian nominee received only about 385,000 votes or 0.36 percent,"

Many libertarians, like me, voted for, and even contributed to Bush in 2000. Since he has shown himself to be socially repressive and fiscally irresponsible, in fact, the exact opposite of what libertarians wanted, it is unlikely many of us will make the same mistake this time around.

I know most of you don't care. I don't think we will be the reason he loses even if he does. Mine is just an observation.


53 posted on 06/21/2004 6:51:05 PM PDT by monday
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The major third party candidates on the right, mean very little. Whether its Browne with the Libertarian Party, Philips with the Constitution Party; Hagelin at the Natural Law Party or whoever it might be this time around at the Reform Party, they are of little consequence. Last time around, all major third party candidates garnered roughly 4 million votes out of some 106 million total votes, or 3.7%. And that was with Nadar. Take Nadar out of the mix and the big four had just over one million votes total, or 1.1%. Overall impact? Minimal.


69 posted on 06/21/2004 7:11:00 PM PDT by Reagan Man (.....................................................The Choice is Clear....... Re-elect BUSH-CHENEY)
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