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And just what would that be?

That we're a bunch of goosestepping racists. And there is that element within the conservative branch just as there is an element that blows up hummer dealerships in the left so both sides have their loons. But there's no need to feed them.

It's the same in every country in the world, except for the tax rate and the fact that it's easier to become a citizen here than just about anywhere. If immigrants and legal residents don't find that attractive, they are likely not to stay long enough to participate in public schools even if they could vote. If they are committed to America they'll become citizens. There's nothing wrong with that.

Problem with that is we're not every country in the world the is the US, the pinacle of freedom -- that to which others aspire and dream. I've got no desire to be every other country that's germany (lets kill a few jews, zeig heil!), that's Saudi Arabia (lets kill a few jews, allah willing), that's FRANCE ( do you really need an example? ).

And while they are in the process of becomming citizens or are in this country legally they should have every right to ensure they have a voice in their children's education and if they do not have this they should be rebated the taxes they pay. Since they are not rebated the taxes they pay they should have their voice.

Meanwhile, some immigrants still have the right to vote in their home countries by absentee ballot. Nobody is robbing them of their rights.

You are.

As always a fun and interesting time here on the old FR but time for bed.

Just remember we're a nation of imigrants, if you wanna get prissy over who owns this land, I believe the owner is Geronimo and Crazy Horse and the other native americans.

You may dislike the Mexicans but the irish and the germans and the italians and the cubans and the chineese waves were all met with the same disdain and the US survived and flourished despite the same gloom and doom. We'll survive this too and all the stronger and better for it.

G'nite

"And while they are in the process of becomming citizens or are in this country legally they should have every right to ensure they have a voice in their children's education and if they do not have this they should be rebated the taxes they pay."

Why bother becoming a citizen then? We're about the only country in the world that has birth-right citizenship. Their kids are most likely anchor babies, and the parents won't even need citizenship, since all it is is an expense with no additional benefit.

Obviously, the "S.F. solution" is to abolish citizenship. Henceforth, we're all just residents.

(If you want to receive a nice autoreply from S.F. Mayor Gavin Newsom - who hasn't yet made up his mind on this issue, so please keep it polite - here's his email: gavin.newsom@sfgov.org )

That we're a bunch of goosestepping racists.

They'll say that no matter what we do. Are you going to surrender or show a spine point out that it's the liberals who are the racists? The Democrats are the Slavery Party and always have been.

But there's no need to feed them.

The only way not to feed their vitriol is to surrender your rights to the government.

Problem with that is we're not every country in the world the is the US, the pinacle of freedom -- that to which others aspire and dream.

Then they have reason to join us.

Since they are not rebated the taxes they pay they should have their voice.

Nope. That's a benefit that comes with rights and responsibilities of citizenship.

You are (taking their rights).

They don't have a right to vote in our elections so nobody is taking one away. They agreed to those terms when they came here. You want to give them additional rights that dilute the rights of citizenship. It is thus you who are proposing to take rights.