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RED ALERT: Socialist agenda being pushed through the California Legislature

Posted on 06/20/2004 10:15:39 PM PDT by farmfriend

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To: NormsRevenge

Re: post #23 - FairOpinion is a GOP hack, and the questions posed by her indicates that she knows very little about the issue.


161 posted on 08/09/2004 1:15:06 PM PDT by 12 Gauge Mossberg
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To: SierraWasp; farmfriend; Carry_Okie; Ernest_at_the_Beach; FairOpinion; forester; hedgetrimmer; ...
Sierra Nevada Conservancy Update - Hearing this Thursday

	CURRENT BILL STATUS


MEASURE:             A.B. No. 2600
AUTHOR(S):           Laird.
TOPIC:               Sierra Nevada Conservancy.
HOUSE LOCATION:      SEN
+LAST AMENDED DATE:  05/20/2004


TYPE OF BILL :  
                Active
                Non-Urgency
                Non-Appropriations
                Majority Vote Required
                Non-State-Mandated Local Program
                Fiscal
                Non-Tax Levy

LAST HIST. ACT. DATE:  08/04/2004
LAST HIST. ACTION:     In committee:  Placed on Appropriations suspense file.
COMM. LOCATION:        SEN APPROPRIATIONS
HEARING DATE:          08/12/2004

TITLE:   An act to add Division 23.3 (commencing with Section
         33300) to the Public Resources Code, relating to the
         Sierra Nevada Conservancy.

162 posted on 08/10/2004 1:42:51 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: Seadog Bytes; farmfriend; calcowgirl; Carry_Okie; NormsRevenge; forester; ElkGroveDan
"Sad to say, but I think you are *absolutely* correct."

Furthermore... In today's San Franpsycho Comical, the Field Poll has Arnold's numbers back up from 57% to as high as Jerry "Fruitfly" Brown's numbers..."Highest numbers for a new Governor in 30 years..." so now we just lie back, uncross our fingers, toes and legs and try to enjoy it!!! (wretch!)

163 posted on 08/10/2004 4:08:45 PM PDT by SierraWasp (You better believe it! America IS exceptional!! I will always believe in American exceptionalism!!!)
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To: calcowgirl; NormsRevenge; SierraWasp; hedgetrimmer; Carry_Okie
LAST AMENDED DATE: 05/20/2004

I thought that they were going to amend this thing. I am unclear on how the system works. When does the public get to see the amended bill? Before or after they approve it?

164 posted on 08/10/2004 4:24:12 PM PDT by forester ( An economy that is overburdened by government eventually results in collapse)
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To: forester; farmfriend

I think farmfriend is your expert on the process detail.


165 posted on 08/10/2004 4:48:27 PM PDT by SierraWasp (You better believe it! America IS exceptional!! I will always believe in American exceptionalism!!!)
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To: forester; Carry_Okie; SierraWasp; hedgetrimmer; calcowgirl; marsh2; GVgirl
Amended AB 2600
166 posted on 08/10/2004 6:02:08 PM PDT by farmfriend ( In Essentials, Unity...In Non-Essentials, Liberty...In All Things, Charity.)
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To: forester; Carry_Okie; SierraWasp; hedgetrimmer; calcowgirl; marsh2; GVgirl
AB 2631, the invasive species bill has been amended and is also scheduled for a Thur. hearing.
167 posted on 08/10/2004 6:04:20 PM PDT by farmfriend ( In Essentials, Unity...In Non-Essentials, Liberty...In All Things, Charity.)
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To: forester; Carry_Okie; SierraWasp; hedgetrimmer; calcowgirl; marsh2; GVgirl
Ok, Leslie has been stabbed in the back as far as I can tell. I have not reread the bill but I have looked for the coded changes. Stricken parts are lined out and anything new is written in italics.

Here are the stricken parts, and it looks like they are just deleting the funding.

The Water Security, Clean Drinking Water, Coastal and Beach Protection Act of 2002 was an initiative measure approved by the voters at the November 5, 2002, statewide general election as Proposition 50. Proposition 50, among other things, provides bond funds for acquisition of land related to protection of water supplies.

This bill would appropriate $30,000,000 from Proposition 50 bond funds to the Secretary of the Resources Agency for the purposes of acquisition of land or water resources to protect water quality in the Sierra Nevada-Cascade Mountain Region.

...

SEC. 2. Of the funds available for the purposes of Section 79544 of the Water Code, the sum of thirty million dollars ($30,000,000) is hereby appropriated from the Water Security, Clean Drinking Water, Coastal and Beach Protection Fund of 2002, established by Section 79510 of the Water Code, to the Secretary of the Resources Agency pursuant to Section 79544 of the Water Code.

There are no added provisions, therefor nothing about local control!!!

168 posted on 08/10/2004 6:15:13 PM PDT by farmfriend ( In Essentials, Unity...In Non-Essentials, Liberty...In All Things, Charity.)
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To: farmfriend
I was told last night that at the Repellican Convention that the County Chairs of the County Central Committee Association voted in lockstep to support AS in this nefarious endeavor!

I was also told that one of AS's sharpest legislative aids was given some language that flat out called for a supermajority of effected County Supervisors to put in as an amendment. I haven't looked yet, but will later.

This is so disheartening to have something that Sierran Supervisors have fought off for over a decade to be shoved in their locally elected faces by a Republican Governor... It's such an utter shame and inexcusable!!!

169 posted on 08/10/2004 6:54:54 PM PDT by SierraWasp (You better believe it! America IS exceptional!! I will always believe in American exceptionalism!!!)
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To: farmfriend

Looks like any reference to ANY electeds has vanished!!!


170 posted on 08/10/2004 7:21:59 PM PDT by SierraWasp (You better believe it! America IS exceptional!! I will always believe in American exceptionalism!!!)
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To: farmfriend; SierraWasp

All of the deletions you note deal only with appropriations and specific dollar values.

Since they have talked often about various compromises to bring Laird and Leslie's bill together, is it possible the language just hasn't been formalized yet... but is still on its way?

I am hopeful that is the case... Otherwise, it's out and out depressing!

By the way... Cedillo's SB 1160, Drivers Licenses for Illegal Aliens, is also scheduled for hearing on Thursday. It's a big day in Sacramento, huh?

http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/postquery?bill_number=sb_1160&sess=CUR&house=B&author=cedillo


171 posted on 08/10/2004 7:32:27 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: calcowgirl
"It's a big day in Sacramento, huh?"

Yeah! The Bleepin Socialistas/Commonistas are doing a full court press now that Arnold is all full of warmth over his ratings being as high as Governor Moonbeams at this stage in his Governorhood!!!

The people of CA are lettin him completely offa the hook after all his bloviating blunderbuss!!! (Bletch!)

172 posted on 08/10/2004 9:03:47 PM PDT by SierraWasp (You better believe it! America IS exceptional!! I will always believe in American exceptionalism!!!)
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To: SierraWasp

>>The people of CA are lettin him completely offa the hook after all his bloviating blunderbuss!!! (Bletch!)

Aided and abetted by California 'journalists'. They keep telling the people how satisfied
they are, and they start to believe it! Self fulfilling prophecy. Sad.


173 posted on 08/10/2004 10:10:27 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: calcowgirl; farmfriend; Carry_Okie; FairOpinion; DoughtyOne; Ernest_at_the_Beach
Here's how they lobby the Property Rights Terminator for their Land Grabbing Conservancy!!!

They did it with Pete Wilson 11 years ago, too and it paid off bigtime for them. Pete ate outa their hand his entire 8 years!!!

174 posted on 08/11/2004 6:38:19 PM PDT by SierraWasp (You better believe it! America IS exceptional!! I will always believe in American exceptionalism!!!)
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To: SierraWasp

Sheesh Sierra... he's just creating jobs, isn't he? ;-)


175 posted on 08/11/2004 7:41:31 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: calcowgirl

Nope! Just slopping the hogs who want to monopolize the Sierra for nothing but Eco-Tourism... You know... rafting and crafting for hippie throw-backs in their Volvoids!!!


176 posted on 08/11/2004 9:03:42 PM PDT by SierraWasp (You better believe it! America IS exceptional!! I will always believe in American exceptionalism!!!)
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To: calcowgirl; ElkGroveDan; farmfriend; Amerigomag; Carry_Okie
Meanwhile, Back at the corrupt Wildlife Conservation Board's Hearst Ranch...
177 posted on 08/13/2004 8:31:16 AM PDT by SierraWasp (You better believe it! America IS exceptional!! I will always believe in American exceptionalism!!!)
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AB 2600

Committee Analysis

To the extent that voters approve new bond measures, acquisitions and capital improvements (and some grants for those purposes) could be funded through those bonds. Ongoing maintenance and operations of public lands would not be eligible expenditures of bond funds and would require funding from either the General Fund or special funds.

PROPOSED AMENDMENTS: The author proposes amendments that would do the following:

1. Define the boundaries of SNC and the six subregions that comprise it.
2. Establish a 13-member voting board, consisting of the following:
a. The Secretary of the Resources Agency, or his or her designee;
b. The Director of the Department of Finance, or his or her designee;
c. Three public members appointed by the Governor;
d. One public member appointed by the Speaker of the Assembly;
e. One public member appointed by the Senate Committee on Rules; and
f. One county supervisor for each of the six subregions.
3. Prohibit SNC from acquiring any real property in fee simple.

MOTION: Do pass as amended.
(AYES 7. NOES 5.) (PASS)

AYES

Alpert, Bowen, Burton, Escutia, Karnette, Murray, Speier

NOES

Battin, Aanestad, Ashburn, Johnson, Poochigian

ABSENT, ABSTAINING, OR NOT VOTING

Machado

178 posted on 08/13/2004 9:29:43 AM PDT by farmfriend ( In Essentials, Unity...In Non-Essentials, Liberty...In All Things, Charity.)
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To: farmfriend

Is there any way to convince Arnold not to sign it?


179 posted on 08/13/2004 9:33:44 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: SierraWasp; calcowgirl; ElkGroveDan; farmfriend; Amerigomag; Carry_Okie; forester; GVgirl; ...
VOTES - ROLL CALL
MEASURE: AB 2631
AUTHOR: Wolk
TOPIC: Natural resources: invasive species.
DATE: 08/12/2004
LOCATION: SEN. APPR.
MOTION: Do pass.
(AYES 8. NOES 4.) (PASS)

AYES

Alpert, Bowen, Burton, Escutia, Karnette, Machado, Murray, Speier

NOES

Battin, Aanestad, Ashburn, Poochigian

ABSENT, ABSTAINING, OR NOT VOTING

Johnson

180 posted on 08/13/2004 9:35:09 AM PDT by farmfriend ( In Essentials, Unity...In Non-Essentials, Liberty...In All Things, Charity.)
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