Posted on 06/20/2004 10:15:39 PM PDT by farmfriend
Thank you... THANK YOU... GOD BLESS YOU!!!
Don't forget to tell those in AS's office that you have been tirelessly supporting Arnold against all dubious doubters on FR! I'm serious!!!
That will carry a lot more weight, coming from a supporter than it ever would from a "dubious doubter"/"McClintock voter" like me!!!
Again! I sincerely thank you for making this effort to make your feeling known to the right people... Thanks!
The Conservancy says on its home page
The Coastal Conservancy acts with others to preserve, protect and restore the resources of the California Coast. Our vision is of a beautiful, restored and accessible coastline.
The Coastal Commission says on its home page
The California Coastal Commission's primary mission is to plan for and regulate land and water uses in the coastal zone consistent with the policies of the Coastal Act.
But they are distinctly different yet seem similar in their goals and are not cheap to operate.
The Coastal Conservancy has a staff of 65 and a current annual budget of over $185 million. Since 1976, the Conservancy has used well over $500 million to complete its projects. The Conservancy has been funded primarily by state general obligation bonds and from the state's general fund.
The Legislature created the Coastal Conservancy as a unique entity with flexible powers to serve as an intermediary among government, citizens, and the private sector in recognition that creative approaches would be needed to preserve California's coast and San Francisco Bay lands for future generations.
The Coastal Conservancy's non-regulatory, problem-solving approach complements the work of the California Coastal Commission, a distinct agency that regulates land use along the coast and issues development permits. The Coastal Conservancy also coordinates its work with the San Francisco Bay Conservation and Development Commission., an agency created to protect and enhance San Francisco Bay and encourage the responsible use of its resources.
I haven't looked at the budget re: current levels , do we really "need" both?
My #142 is off topic a bit, but once established, these types of agencies become breeder farms for more&more programs.
Yes, and while the main focus is on AB2600, the conservancy bill, people are missing the other huge bureaucracy being created with AB2631, the invasive species bill. IT will be the tool de jour for property and water control.
And you had to direct #142 to me? As if I know? LOL.
I am new to conservancy issues this year... and other than always hearing people b*tch about the Coastal Commission and its power over construction and development (including remodeling ones home), I've never looked into the issues.
I have to agree... breeder farms for more and more programs. If this one passes... there will be another, and another. We need to turn this ship around, cuz it's headin' for one BIG Ol' Iceberg!
>>people are missing the other huge bureaucracy being created with AB2631,
the invasive species bill. IT will be the tool de jour for property and water control.
Kind of feels like they're firing from all sides, doesn't it?
It's hard to keep up, even for those who try. :-)
STAFF COMMENTS:AB 2631 would create an 11-member Invasive Species Council, to develop a statewide invasive species plan and make recommendations for review and approval by the Governor. Each of the members on the Council is a representative from a state entity. The Council is required to meet at least four times annually. The Resources Agency and the Department of Food and Agriculture would be responsible for drafting the report. Report costs would be about $300,000 and two positions. Before the report can be drafted, a comprehensive assessment of all taxa of invasive species in California and their impact on the State's economy, environment, and on health and human services is required to be completed along with a review of existing programs to identify gaps. These provisions are broadly written, and it could take years and potentially millions of dollars for the Council to fully comply. The report is due to the Legislature by January 1, 2007 and the provisions of this bill sunset on January 1, 2009. It is not likely that the work outlined in the bill would be completed by that date.
Additionally, AB 2631 would require the Invasive Species Council to appoint an advisory committee with a minimum of 15 individuals. Costs associated with the advisory committee would likely be around $40,000 to staff and provide for minimal reimbursements to participants, including travel to meetings.
AB 2631 would establish the Invasive Specie Management Fund, but does not specify its funding stream; therefore, costs associated with this bill would likely fall to the General Fund.
Very telling is the list of organizations that are for or against.
REGISTERED SUPPORT / OPPOSITION :Support
The Nature Conservancy (sponsor)
California State Parks Foundation
Defenders of Wildlife
Planning and Conservation League (PCL)Opposition
Agricultural Council of California
California Cattlemen's Association
California Chamber of Commerce
California Citrus Mutual
California Farm Bureau Federation
Family Winemakers of California
Western States Petroleum Association (WSPA)
Note that The Nature Conservancy is sponsering this bill. Does that raise any red flags with anyone?
Sorry I missed getting you on the list. My bad.
Should have called you over to. I need to make a special list for this stuff. My memory is just not good enough.
Bump for added information.
Your list of grievances and usurpations is too long. You need a revolution in the political thinking of your state. It's too bad McClintock didn't win.
Sierra Nevada Conservancy Update - AB 2600 "Placed on Appropriations suspense file."
CURRENT BILL STATUS
MEASURE : A.B. No. 2600
AUTHOR(S) : Laird.
TOPIC : Sierra Nevada Conservancy.
HOUSE LOCATION : SEN
+LAST AMENDED DATE : 05/20/2004
TYPE OF BILL :
Active
Non-Urgency
Non-Appropriations
Majority Vote Required
Non-State-Mandated Local Program
Fiscal
Non-Tax Levy
LAST HIST. ACT. DATE: 08/04/2004
LAST HIST. ACTION: In committee: Placed on Appropriations suspense file.
COMM. LOCATION: SEN APPROPRIATIONS
TITLE: An act to add Division 23.3 (commencing with Section
33300) to the Public Resources Code, relating to the
Sierra Nevada Conservancy.
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COMPLETE BILL HISTORY
BILL NUMBER: A.B. No. 2600
AUTHOR: Laird
TOPIC: Sierra Nevada Conservancy.
TYPE OF BILL :
Active
Non-Urgency
Non-Appropriations
Majority Vote Required
Non-State-Mandated Local Program
Fiscal
Non-Tax Levy
BILL HISTORY
2004
Aug. 4 In committee: Placed on Appropriations suspense file.
July 29 In committee: Hearing postponed by committee.
June 30 From committee: Do pass, and re-refer to Com. on APPR.
Re-referred. (Ayes 6. Noes 3.).
June 17 Joint Rule 61(b)(12) suspended. (Ayes 36. Noes 0. Page 4208.)
June 9 Referred to Com. on N.R. & W.
May 27 In Senate. Read first time. To Com. on RLS. for assignment.
May 26 Read third time, passed, and to Senate. (Ayes 52. Noes 20. Page
6099.)
May 24 Read second time. To third reading.
May 20 From committee: Amend, and do pass as amended. (Ayes 16. Noes 3.)
(May 19). Read second time and amended. Ordered returned to
second reading.
May 5 In committee: Set, first hearing. Referred to APPR. suspense file.
Apr. 20 From committee: Do pass, and re-refer to Com. on APPR.
Re-referred. (Ayes 7. Noes 4.) (April 19).
Apr. 14 Re-referred to Com. on NAT. RES.
Apr. 13 From committee chair, with author's amendments: Amend, and re-refer
to Com. on NAT. RES. Read second time and amended.
Mar. 8 Referred to Coms. on NAT. RES. and E.S. & T.M.
Feb. 22 From printer. May be heard in committee March 23.
Feb. 20 Read first time. To print.
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So now we wait to see what it looks like after they amend this piece of bureau-nazi fantasy. I take it that one of you ladies are on the legislative e-mail update list and will ping us backwoods types when the ink is still wet?
Absolutely. When I first got involved in this ten years ago, I could keep up fairly easy with new forestry & enviro regs. After a few years, I had to give up on the big picture and narrow my focus to specific issues. Now all I can do is warn people of the newest train wreck coming at them.
I'm on the leginfo email list for any changes to AB2600... I've been posting the updates as they come (about 24 hours after the action, as far as I can tell).
I'll post anything I get... assuming they don't go hide it under some other bill that I am not notifed of. LOL.
I'm on the list for ab2600 and a few more. Forester, did you get that one I emailed to you. Did I email it to you? I'll send it again tomorrow if I didn't.
Sad to say, but I think you are *absolutely* correct.
Here's a BIG GLIMPSE into what I was talking/typing about in Reply #24... Even the danged BEE smells a RAT in the WILDLIFE CONSERVATION BOARD that supports all these crooked CONservacancies!!!
If you're lookin fer a huge manure pile under the Crapitol Dome... Lift the lid of CA Fish & Game's Wildlife Conservation Board... If you can stand the stench!!!
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