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To: Ronly Bonly Jones

Oh really? Well what does that make Lincoln suspending the US Constitution and crushing states rights? As I recall, wasn't it Lincoln that freed the slaves? Emancipation Proclimation signed in September 1862 and didn't go into effect until Jan 1st 1863. Why didn't he free them in 1861? Lee was defending the Constitution as it was written. Lincoln pissed on it. Tell me who is the traitor to the founding fathers and this country's laws! It wasn't Lee! Slavery was legal!


31 posted on 06/19/2004 6:48:31 PM PDT by Bommer (RIP Ronald Reagan!)
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To: Bommer
The Emancipation Proclamation applied to: "Arkansas, Texas, Louisiana, (except the Parishes of St. Bernard, Plaquemines, Jefferson, St. John, St. Charles, St. James Ascension, Assumption, Terrebonne, Lafourche, St. Mary, St. Martin, and Orleans, including the City of New Orleans) Mississippi, Alabama, Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, North Carolina, and Virginia, (except the forty-eight counties designated as West Virginia, and also the counties of Berkley, Accomac, Northampton, Elizabeth City, York, Princess Ann, and Norfolk, including the cities of Norfolk and Portsmouth[)], and which excepted parts, are for the present, left precisely as if this proclamation were not issued."

The EP did not apply to any of the Union states, nor to Tennessee, nor to any of the counties of Louisiana or Virginia then occupied by Union forces.

As a war measure (of questionable legality ) it ceased to have any effect upon termination of the state of war. The EP never had any effect on the slaves in the Union states such as Delaware. The slaves were really freed by the 13th Amendment.

At the time of the issuance of the EP, the London Spectator observed that "The principle is not that a human being cannot justly own another, but that he cannot own him unless he is loyal to the United States."

33 posted on 06/19/2004 11:51:30 PM PDT by nolu chan
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To: Bommer

Slavery was legal>>

So was Genocide in Nazi Germany. And those who supported Genocide in Nazi Germany and those who perpetuated Slavery in the south were moral equals.

Your silence hereafter is expected.


34 posted on 06/20/2004 6:36:12 AM PDT by Ronly Bonly Jones (truth is truth)
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