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Outsiders grab a third of US jobs (non-citizens)
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/742764.cms ^ | WEDNESDAY, JUNE 16, 2004 | indiatimes.com

Posted on 06/18/2004 10:31:33 AM PDT by take

Outsiders grab a third of US jobs HOUSTON: Nearly three out of every 10 jobs in the US are being filled by immigrants, according to a new study.

Workers, who are not US citizens claimed 378,496 jobs out of a net increase of 1.3 million from the first three months of 2003 through the first three months of 2004, the study by the non-partisan Pew Hispanic Center said.

The share of jobs going to non-citizens by 28.5 per cent was particularly notable because workers who are not US citizens account for fewer than 9 per cent of all those holding jobs in the United States, the Los Angeles Times reported.

"The proportion of new jobs captured by non-citizens was much larger than their share of overall employment," said the report, prepared by labour economist Rakesh Kochhar.

"Thus, the political impact of job gains may be dampened by the fact that non-citizens are benefiting disproportionately from the turnaround in the labour market." Center Director Roberto Suro said the "turnaround is being fuelled to a substantial extent by the demand for immigrant labour. And as a result, a substantial chunk of the new jobs are going to people who are not voters".

The study is likely to sharpen the debate about the role of immigrant workers in America, the quality of new jobs and the impact of globalisation.

Most economists have tended to minimise the impact of large numbers of immigrants entering the US job market, but the Pew findings may bolster those who challenge that view.

The high proportion of new jobs going to recent immigrants may reflect the fact that the current recovery has thus far been different from most past upturns.

In recent months, as overall job growth has begun to improve, most of the new jobs appear to have come in categories that require relatively low skills and pay relatively low wages by the kinds of jobs for which new immigrants are strong competitors.

In the past, the early stages of economic recoveries have been marked by growth in industrial jobs that pay above-average wages.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: aliens; citizens; job; non

1 posted on 06/18/2004 10:31:34 AM PDT by take
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To: take

I'm glad this piece bothers to distinguish between legal immigrants and illegal ones. Most don't.


2 posted on 06/18/2004 10:35:15 AM PDT by Gefreiter
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To: take

Only Americans should be allowed to work in this world, dagnabit.


3 posted on 06/18/2004 10:37:48 AM PDT by El Sordo
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To: take

What a misleading headline.


4 posted on 06/18/2004 10:51:31 AM PDT by Terpfen (Re-elect Bush; kill terrorists now, fix Medicare later.)
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To: El Sordo

No, but only Americans should be allowed to work in America, except in some rare cases for example in case of a desperate labor shortage in a particular field. But there is no such labor shortage in any field in the US right now, quite the opposite.


5 posted on 06/18/2004 10:52:48 AM PDT by Decombobulator
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To: take
I want a Mexican gardener and cook and I want them now !!


BUMP

6 posted on 06/18/2004 10:54:26 AM PDT by tm22721 (May the UN rest in peace)
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To: take

"non-partisan Pew Hispanic Center"

Thats an outright lie right there.


7 posted on 06/18/2004 11:06:26 AM PDT by mkj6080
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To: Gefreiter

It doesn't. "Non-citizens" does not imply illegal immigrants. It could include H-1B visas, Green cards, etc, all of which are legal immigrants.


8 posted on 06/18/2004 11:12:46 AM PDT by razoroccam (read Germs of War to know the real Armageddon)
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To: take

Well, we can't let Americans have those jobs, now, can we? They might become uppity. No, the important thing - the one most important thing!!!! - is to keep labor costs low. (/bitter sarcasm)


9 posted on 06/18/2004 11:18:09 AM PDT by neutrino (Against stupidity the very Gods themselves contend in vain.)
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To: take

Mass Immigration Cost American Taxpayers $69 Billion Net and 2 Million Jobs in 1997

Study by Dr. Donald Huddle

Reports Legal Immigration of over 1 Million Per Year Accounts for over 62% of Costs
State Costs to Taxpayers are Also Soaring (1996 Net Costs % up from 1992):

California: $28 billion up 35%

New York: $14 billion up 29%

Texas: $7 billion up 37%

Florida: $6 billion up 77%

The first study of the net cost of immigration to American taxpayers in 1997 conducted by Dr. Donald Huddle, Professor Emeritus of Economics at Rice University, found that:

The nearly 26 million legal and illegal immigrants settling in the United States since 1970 cost taxpayers a net $69 billion in 1997 alone, in excess of taxes those immigrants paid. This represents a cost of $260 in additional taxes paid by each U.S. resident or $1,030 in additional taxes paid by each family of four. This cost is a substantial increase over the net immigration costs of $65 billion ins 1996, $51 billion ins 1994, $44 billion in 1993, and $43 billion in 1992.

Over 62% of the net national cost of immigration in 1996, $40.6 billion, was attributable to legal and legalized (amnesty) immigrants. Illegal immigration generates about 38%, $24 billion of the total net cost. Legal immigration levels are over one million per year, and rising.

During 1996, approximately 2.3 million predominantly low-skill American workers were displaced from their jobs due to the continued heavy influx of immigrant workers since 1970. Taxpayers paid more than $15.2 billion in public assistance for those displaced workers in 1996, including Medicaid, Aid to Families with Dependent Children (AFDC), unemployment compensation, and food stamps.

A net deficit of $8.5 billion dollars to the Social Security system in 1996 is attributable to the economic impact of the foreign-born population. Continued mass immigration threatens the solvency of the Social Security system.

Net cumulative costs for the 1998-2007 decade are projected to reach $932 billion, an average of $93.2 billion per year, even with recent changes in welfare and immigration policies and a prosperous economy, if current mass immigration trends are allowed to continue.

Breakdown for 1997 Costs of Legal Immigration
Public Schools (Primary, Secondary, Higher, etc) $22.5 billion

Bilingual Education, ESOL, ESL Education $ 3.3 billion

Medicaid $12.8 billion

AFDC (for legal and illegal immigrant's offspring) $ 2.4 billion

Social Security $24.8 billion

Supplemental Security Income $ 2.9 billion

Housing Assistance $ 2.6 billion

Criminal Justice $ 2.6 billion

Jobs Lost by Americans $10.8 billion

Other Programs $51.4 billion

1997 Total Costs for LEGAL Immigration: $136 billion

Add 1997 total costs for illegal immigration of $41 billion and subtract an estimated $108 billion in taxes paid by all immigrants (legal and illegal) in 1997 to obtain the overall net figure of $69 billion charged to you, and other American taxpayers.

Other key facts regarding immigration are:

1.) If current immigration trends continue, the current U.S. population of

274 million will nearly double to over 500,000,000 by 2050. (The U.S. was 135 million at the end of WWII.)

2.) Harvard Professor George Borjas demonstrated that mass immigration costs American workers $133 billion per year in wage depression and job loss.

3.) The prestigious National Research Council found at the state and local levels (which bear most of the burden for K-12 education) the net fiscal burden of the average immigrant-headed household (i.e., after subtracting state and local taxes the household paid) was:

$1,484 per immigrant-headed household in New Jersey (in the 1989-1990 fiscal year); and $3,463 in California (in 1994-1995)(p. 276-277)

http://www.carryingcapacity.org/huddlenr.html


10 posted on 06/18/2004 11:18:25 AM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1/5 1st Mar Div. Nam 69&70 Semper Fi http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnkerry.com)
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To: razoroccam

r,
Hey you're right!

*sigh* And I was all excited that someone in the media was willing to admit a difference between legal and illegal immigration.

Oh well.


11 posted on 06/18/2004 11:22:09 AM PDT by Gefreiter
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To: take

After 9/11 I thought for sure that we would finally seal the borders, or at least get very particular about who, and how many we let in. It has been exactly the opposite - that is one area that W needs to change.


12 posted on 06/18/2004 11:23:19 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty
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To: take

As long as they are not here illegally, I say good for them...and I wish them the best.


13 posted on 06/18/2004 12:02:15 PM PDT by VaBthang4 ("He who watches over Israel will neither slumber nor sleep")
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To: take

And, the employment of illegal Mexican criminal river-swimming aliens displaces black American workers. Look at all the blacks who have been and will be released from prison. They going to find work? Nope, Pancho got the job so he can send money (off the books) back to Mexico.


14 posted on 06/18/2004 12:19:39 PM PDT by Tacis (,)
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To: VaBthang4
As long as they are not here illegally, I say good for them...and I wish them the best.

Hear hear! LEGAL immigrants are the world's gift to our prosperity. Even many illegals contribute. But uncontrolled immigration leads to vote fraud, welfare fraud, and unfair burdens on services funded by citizens' taxes.

15 posted on 06/18/2004 2:02:15 PM PDT by eno_
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To: take

It's a sad commentary on the state of public discourse in America that this interesting fact spurs comment in faraway India, but not here at home.

Unfortunately, if you try to discuss immigration in any meaningful way, the left drops their equivalent of a MOAB and calls you, "racist!" in a singsong voice while plugging their ears.

Not a racist; I believe that there is room for lots more immigrants here, but we should have some public discussion about who they should be. Perhaps we should have two tracks of immigration, one for future citizens, and one for those who want to come here for some years to work and send money home, but remain loyal to their home nation. Perhaps we should require, as Canada and Mexico do, immigrants to be self-supporting on arrival, and to add something to the nation. Perhaps we should not permit immigrants from nations that will not extradite their citizens who have committed crimes in our country, and then fled home (Mexico is one such, that shields murderers from extradition to stand trial).

I can't agree with the conventional wisdom that our immigration law, last substantively revised in 1965, is perfect as is.

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F


16 posted on 06/18/2004 2:27:08 PM PDT by Criminal Number 18F
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To: El Sordo
Only Americans should be allowed to work in this world, dagnabit.

Exactly as it is in many other countries, such as the Bahamas, one should be a CITIZEN to hold a job, unless it can be proven there are no citizens that can fill the position first. DAGNABIT!

The hypocrisy of foreigners amazes me. Leave. You are not wanted. [Of course that is only mean spirited when an American says it, not anyone else in the world!]

17 posted on 06/18/2004 5:23:56 PM PDT by Indie (Ignorance of the truth is no excuse for stupidity.)
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To: eno_
"uncontrolled immigration leads to vote fraud, welfare fraud, and unfair burdens on services funded by citizens' taxes."

I did not mention any of those things because they don't have anything to do with legal immigrants coming here and working hard.

Hard working immigrants are not this countries problem.

Illegal immigrants coupled with an incompetent INS are.

18 posted on 06/18/2004 5:40:52 PM PDT by VaBthang4 ("He who watches over Israel will neither slumber nor sleep")
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