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To: hopespringseternal
I suppose there is no difference in your mind?

Between unauthorized and erroneous? Not really. Why would someone act without authority except to spread error? Or at lest to encourage others to follow in disobedience?

I would love to see a compilation of what the Catholic church finds erroneous in any translation, especially the KJV as the entire civilized world finds the KJV to be a very good translation.

The entire Protestant world finds the KJV to be a good translation. Many respect its way with words and bow to its impact upon our language.

But that doesn't mean that it is without flaw. And, for these conversations, it doesn't mean that the first English Bible were not printed in order to spread error and disobedience.

Here's one example:

KJV Luke 2: 14 Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace, good will toward men.

NIV:14"Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace to men on whom his favor rests."

AMP:14Glory to God in the highest [heaven], and on earth peace among men with whom He is well pleased [[1] men of goodwill, of His favor].

(interstingly enough, the footnote is that this wording is from the Wycliffe Bible. Didn't make it to the KJV which totally boned up this verse)

NAB: 14 "Glory to God in the highest and on earth peace to those on whom his favor rests."

Just one example. The KJV confuses God granting favor on those with whom He is pleased" or "with those on whom His favor rests" with a general "good will towards men."

This is not a minor point.

SD

93 posted on 06/18/2004 2:12:35 PM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: SoothingDave
Not really. Why would someone act without authority except to spread error?

Easy, authority comes from God, not from Rome. If someone teaches in error, it is the responsibility of the whole Church to deal with it - meaning whatever part of the church encounters the error is to turn from it while attempting to correct the error. Failing that, the apostles said let those people spreading lies be accursed of God - the end. Error is bad, so is adultery and so to is treachery like that of Judas. But judgement for all these things belong to God as shown in the scriptures and spoken to directly by Christ. Nobody is arguing that error isn't bad. But you want to argue that error is worthy of Death and say it was ok to put people to death for it. Christ said no. He then asked the woman "where are your accusers"... Christ already judged this issue. And he told you 'put away your sword, for those who take up the sword (, Peter) will die by it'.

101 posted on 06/18/2004 2:46:45 PM PDT by Havoc ("The line must be drawn here. This far and no further!")
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To: SoothingDave
Why would someone act without authority except to spread error?

The "authority" of the same organization that had a system for protecting child molesters? True authority is never arbitrary but adheres to a real standard. The KJV is at the least better than the Vulgate which is both authorized and erroneous.

This is not a minor point.

All translations have minor differences in wording that make no difference in meaning when viewed in the larger context of the bible. If you are going to parse scripture to that extent, a lot of the poetry and prophecy contains grievous errors. Since it is obvious scripture is not so errant, it is clear that God did not intend it to be a legalese trap to prevent Clintonian weaseling of obvious intention.

127 posted on 06/18/2004 4:05:36 PM PDT by hopespringseternal (People should be banned for sophistry.)
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