No one could believe nightmare was real - But 4 jets were on death run

New York Daily News ^ | 6/18/04 | HELEN KENNEDY

[SLB]

Good post.

[endthematrix]

""I reverted to the Russian threat"

As an armed security contractor for FAA, I can attest we too are up to date...we follow standard 1958 procedures and carry superior firearm technology, .38 special S&W revolvers!!! Oh yeah, all the facility security procedures were to be in place after OKC but were actually dusted off 9/11. Now we have 24/7 shift coverage and vehicle barricades and remote gates. Somebody got "smart" and we will soon be carrying .45 cal.

[SkyPilot]

I won't listen to a thing the 9-11 Commission says or does until they acknowledge their "Gorelick" problem.

The Monday morning quaterbacking is useless as well.

[upchuck]

I won't listen to a thing the 9-11 Commission says or does until they acknowledge their "Gorelick" problem.

Agree 100% but I'm not holding my breath and hope you're not either.

[The Sons of Liberty]

I won't listen to a thing the 9-11 Commission says or does until they acknowledge their "Gorelick" problem.

I was listening to National Propaganda Radio (NPR) yesterday, and out of all the people they could've chosen to interview concerning the hearings, they picked Gorelick! That's fair and balanced!

Since we had not had a hijacking in this country for more than 10 years prior to 9/11 and the DOD had no shootdown policy, why are they surprised at the confusion that occurred?

The dems could care less about improving the security of the country, they're only concerned with picking up votes from the dimwits that listen to them!

[nmh]

I agree with you.

This is nothing more than a liberal lynching.

How come they didn't do this under Clinton - expecting perfection ?

[BillyCrockett]

A scenario to ponder, if you haven't already... Imagine that all 4 passenger jets had been intercepted and blown out of the sky by fighter jets before any of them got near their (then unknown) targets. Imagine that all of the debris then crashed down to earth on homes, buildings, roads, etc. Imagine that there was then NO 911 terrorist attack on NY or Wash. ONLY the US government shooting down 4 US passenger jets on a beautiful September morning. Just imagine...

[BunnySlippers]

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[Tijeras_Slim]

8AM Flight 11 takes off... 10:03AM Flight 93 Crashes.

In the space of 123 minutes the world changed.

[Auntie Toots]

That is indeed something to ponder. President Bush would be eve more chastised if the planes would have been shot down.

[paulsy]

"Nobody move. Everything will be okay. If you try to make any moves, you'll endanger yourself and the airplane," he said."

This has become the libaral / leftist banner to the war on terrorism, with Iraq being its latest poster child.

[toomanygrasshoppers]

"President Bush would be even more chastised if the planes would have been shot down"

Yup. Even if they were able to shoot down Flight 11 only. The critics would have said, "What evidence did you have that proved that this plane was going to be slammed into a building like the others?" "Isn't it possible that this plane was going to be landed safely?" "This Administration acted completely without evidence and murdered those people on board that plane" blah blah blah. Even if the planes headed for the twin towers had been shot down, they would have probably landed on buildings which would have resulted in the deaths of hundreds of people. The truth is this: Some very evil people murdered all those people. The terrorists are completely at fault. Period.

[New Perspective]

That is indeed something to ponder. President Bush would be eve more chastised if the planes would have been shot down.

No matter what has or would of happened, America did change. No matter what President Bush would have done, the original denogrators of our society would blame him for everything. Any non-liberal can not win in the eyes of liberals. This is why we must maintain a strong national defense, a steady traditional values platform, and a will to resist their trojan horses day after day.

[pgkdan]

You're absolutely right and I make this point all the time to people who complain that the military was slow to respond 9-11. There would have been absolute pandemonium in this country had our Navy and Air Force shot down 4 jets that morning. Without the horror of 9-11 as a yardstick shooting passenger jets out of the sky would never have been accepted by the public. I know I'd never have been convinced that it was an appropriate response, and even today it's hard to contemplate.

[Anglospheroid]

In my opinion, Flight 93 was shot down. Do the research and make up your own mind.

[jwpjr]

I don't think the average person realizes the awesome fire power one of our fighters has, and more importantly, how fully aware of his/her responsibility the pilots in command of these aircraft are when they are called on to fly. I don't know how anyone, other than a group of politically motivated Monday morning quarterbacks, could expect anything less from the defense people under the circumstances. Let your mind run free for a moment and think about the reaction these same people would have had if the flight over PA had been shot down by a US fighter rather than crashed as a result of the efforts of passengers/crew to thwart the terrorists' mission. There's not a snowball's chance in hell that any of them would have EVER agreed with the action. I am impatient with the naysayers that keep harping on how DOD's response to this situation is somehow and indication of how badly prepared they were that day. The only protection would have been to have fighters either airborne or on a really hot alert status, both prohibitively expensive.

[subterfuge]

A tough read.

[pageonetoo]

That is indeed something to ponder....

We could have ended up with Prez Shrillery! (Oh my God!)