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More devastating Scandal stories coming?
Bettnet.com ^ | June 16, 2004 | Domenico Bettenelli, Jr.

Posted on 06/17/2004 11:20:09 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever

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41 posted on 06/17/2004 11:50:03 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: sinkspur

This moving around of priests to HIDE the abuse is wrong. Was wrong. Is still happening. It's a disgrace. It's ruined lives.

I miss the church. I miss the music. But I can't go back either.


42 posted on 06/17/2004 11:50:20 AM PDT by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Rutles4Ever

Did you know that Bush is Catholic and therefore must also be blamed for this abuse?


43 posted on 06/17/2004 11:50:26 AM PDT by gathersnomoss
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To: TheCrusader

Actually, those are only the ones reported. A relative worked for the state institution charged with revoking teaching licenses for this. Sexual abuse between teachers goes largely unreported and the teachers get shifted around.

There was a non-child sexual incident in our district. One of the principals was, um, er, tutoring one of his married female staff members during her conference period. This wasn't the first go round for the principal. The teacher went to a different school, the principal went to a different district. I only know because well, teachers laughed about how stupid the man was. Oh, and nothing went in to anyone's file about sexual misconduct.


44 posted on 06/17/2004 11:50:29 AM PDT by Jaded (Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society. - Mark Twain)
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To: Peach

Truth is bashing.

Head in the sand, circle the wagons, is a good Catholic.


45 posted on 06/17/2004 11:50:46 AM PDT by Bluntpoint
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46 posted on 06/17/2004 11:51:39 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: JohnnyZ

I didn't bring the war into it.

The Church brought the war into their moral authority when they condemned the war in Iraq as immoral.

Now here they are, involved in more immoral cover-ups.

And since when is the church opposed to 25 million people being freed, anyway?

I think you are mixed up, friend.


47 posted on 06/17/2004 11:51:54 AM PDT by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Peach
The priest came the following week to tell my mother none of us could receive the sacrament. my wife has the same story about her grandmother; Dad left the family and the church basically kicked the mom and children out of the church
48 posted on 06/17/2004 11:52:26 AM PDT by SF Republican
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To: Peach
My father walked out the door when on the day JFK was killed .... The priest came the following week to tell my mother none of us could receive the sacrament.

Oh, and you have a B.S. story to add as well. Congratulations.

49 posted on 06/17/2004 11:52:41 AM PDT by JohnnyZ (Yes, I do think I'm funny, why do you ask?)
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To: Peach
Divorced families were told across America, indeed across the world, do not receive the sacrament.

  1. Your mom got divorced a week after your Dad left?
  2. The Church has never said that a divorced person can't receive Communion; it's divorce and remarried persons who can't receive. Your mom got divorced and remarried a week after your Dad left?
  3. The divorce and remarriage of a parent doesn't have much, if anything, to do with whether the kids can receive Communion if they're already baptized Catholics.

50 posted on 06/17/2004 11:52:51 AM PDT by Campion
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The obvious one would be the homosexual angle

There are homosexuals involved? Where did you hear that???? /sarcasm

51 posted on 06/17/2004 11:53:28 AM PDT by sphinx
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To: Campion

WOW! You are re-writing history, friend.

Do you not know that Catholics who divorced were not allowed to receive the sacrament in the early 60's? Tens of thousands of good Catholics were refused the sacrament for doing NOTHING wrong but being abandoned.

Why do you think so many Catholics got annulments which costs several thousand dollars? So they could go back to CHURCH!!!!!!!!!

Sheesh - you people who are alluding to something in my past or my parent's past are disgusting.


52 posted on 06/17/2004 11:54:19 AM PDT by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Salvation

Just heard on the news today that the diocese of Phoenix? may be filing for bankruptcy.


53 posted on 06/17/2004 11:54:54 AM PDT by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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To: Peach
I don't think this upcoming bombshell is about the abuse of minors.

It will be about the largely-ignored story of clerical sexual relationships with adults, both men and women.

Dreher says it's international in scope, so it will likely involve some stories from Mexico or Latin America about concubinage.

Notice, Dreher said it would concern American Catholics. If it's about priests abusing their celibacy vows, it will simply reinforce a stereotype that already exists in the rest of the public.

54 posted on 06/17/2004 11:55:07 AM PDT by sinkspur (There's no problem on the inside of a kid that the outside of a dog can't cure.)
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To: Peach
I miss the music.

That settles it: you were never really a Catholic.

</sarcasm>

55 posted on 06/17/2004 11:55:32 AM PDT by Campion
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To: Coleus

I think it was Tucson, actually.


56 posted on 06/17/2004 11:56:51 AM PDT by B Knotts
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To: Peach
More to what? I share something that happened to tens of thousands of divorced families

You never said anything about divorce. So basically the priest told you mother she couldn't go to communion and you've been attacking the Church ever since? And what does JFK have to do with it?

57 posted on 06/17/2004 11:57:43 AM PDT by JohnnyZ (Yes, I do think I'm funny, why do you ask?)
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To: Campion

Oh, brother.

WIthin one week of my father leaving, Father John was at our doorstep telling my mother she could not receive the sacrament. She was not yet divorced and certainly not remarried.

I was the oldest at 7 and so was hardly in a position to go to church alone with my siblings so WE could receive the sacrament.

Instead, we went to Episcopal church.

You are all making me so sorry I shared this story with you because your tones are mean spirited, accusatory and quite ugly. Not Christian at all.

AND, many of you are re-writing history. Regardless of the formal position of the church of abandoned spouses who are not yet divorced, MANY, MANY separated non-yet-divorced people were told they could not receive the sacrament.

Was this done on a church by church basis? Yes. SOme churches in California were more liberal and turned a blind eye to divorced/separated status. But we weren't in California. We were in New York.


58 posted on 06/17/2004 11:57:49 AM PDT by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Campion

No kidding!

Sometimes I wake up around 5:00 on Sunday morning and some Catholic Mass is on the the local channel, with about 12 people in attendance and the music, the music...makes me want to kill one of my cats!


59 posted on 06/17/2004 11:58:13 AM PDT by Bluntpoint
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To: Peach
Do you not know that Catholics who divorced were not allowed to receive the sacrament in the early 60's? Tens of thousands of good Catholics were refused the sacrament for doing NOTHING wrong but being abandoned.

No, I don't know that. Do you have anything more in the way of proof than an anecdotal "my Mom said when I was eight ..." story?

Please note: it's entirely possible that the priest told your Mom that. It's entirely possible that the priest was out to lunch, too. Just because a priest says it, doesn't make it true.

Why do you think so many Catholics got annulments which costs several thousand dollars? So they could go back to CHURCH!!!!!!!!!

There's no need for an annulment unless they're going to contract a second marriage.

Sheesh - you people who are alluding to something in my past or my parent's past are disgusting.

YOU brought it up to trash MY religion, and I'M disgusting???

60 posted on 06/17/2004 11:59:02 AM PDT by Campion
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