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C-word flak leads Hoffman to tears
Rocky Mountain News ^ | 06/16/2004 | John C. Ensslin

Posted on 06/17/2004 2:47:41 AM PDT by Hawk44

University of Colorado President Betsy Hoffman broke down and cried this week while explaining her remark about how a pejorative word referring to the female anatomy could be used as a term of endearment.

Hoffman had been talking Tuesday morning to editors and reporters at the Durango Herald.

An editor asked her about a newspaper story on her use of the C-word while she was giving testimony in a deposition.

Her testimony stemmed from a question asked by one of the lawyers in a federal lawsuit filed by three women who alleged they were sexually assaulted by CU football players and recruits in December 2001.

One of the lawyers was questioning Hoffman about a claim by former CU place- kicker Katie Hnida, who said her football teammates referred to her by the C-word.

Hoffman told the lawyer that the term was a swear word. But when asked if there was any possible polite context for the word, Hoffman testified that the word could be used as a "term of endearment."

The CU president, a medieval scholar, told the Herald that she was thinking back to the 14th century poet Geoffrey Chaucer.

According to the newspaper, Hoffman said, "I was immediately sorry." She said that the lawyer "kept pushing me. He was very nasty."

"I knew as soon as I said it that it would come out in the papers," Hoffman told the Herald. "I should have said, 'Read Chaucer's The Miller's Tale. "

About that time, Hoffman began to cry.

"She just pretty much broke down in tears," said Bryan New-some, the Herald's day city editor. "It was kind of somber. Seeing somebody cry is never pleasant."

Hoffman stepped outside the room for a moment, regained her composure and resumed the interview, which had been intended to be about public financing of higher education in Colorado.

After later reading the depositions, Newsome said he could understand why Hoffman was upset.

"But at the time, I was a little surprised to see a college president break down in tears."

The flap over the deposition drew a full range of reaction from CU regents and one of the commissioners who recently investigated CU's athletic department.

Commissioner Jacqueline St. Joan said she felt Hoffman "put her foot in her mouth," with her remarks on the C-word.

"I see it as a combination of siege mentality and academic myopia about the real world," St. Joan said.

Regent Susan Kirk, however, said she felt it was inappropriate to take out of context Hoffman's brief reply within a deposition.

"I know the president would never disparage women," Kirk said.

Regent Pat Hayes said she thought the controversy over the C-word was "almost a non- story story."

Regent Jim Martin said he understood the context of Hoffman's remarks and the reference to Chaucer but added that he found Hoffman's reply "totally inappropriate."

"That is a vulgar word. She could have just admitted that," Martin said. "To dig in her heels only further tarnishes the reputation of this university."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; US: Colorado
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To: guitfiddlist
That's very interesting.

The woman in my anecdote was far from pretty. She looked like someone's dumpy, old grandmother, straight off the farm, country accent and all, even when she was young, which made the tears all the more effective, as she well knew.

Before I ever met her, a man who had worked with her told me that she was one of the finest people I would ever meet. I expected her to be. However, I figured her out during the first five minutes.

I tend to catch on quick.

Intelligence is endemic here on Free Republic.

61 posted on 06/17/2004 3:47:27 PM PDT by Savage Beast (My parents, grandparents, and greatgrandparents were all Democrats. My children are Republicans.)
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To: NewMexLurker

Of course in Victorian England the t was dropped and a Y added and it was a term of sexual endearment, anyone who had read Autobiography of a Flea will know what I'm talking about, it ranks right up there with, "moist shaded treasure trove, and grotto of aphrodite".

Too, in the Marines we were issued overseas caps which were popularly called C**t Caps because of their shape.

Ah the "Flea", "....mercilessly I probed her grotto of aphrodite, coursing the fecund furrow of love with the rampant steaming engine of my manhood...."

I mean really, it could be about FARMING,right?


62 posted on 06/17/2004 3:59:40 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: tet68
No! She's been hanging around the football locker room.

And Rush asked if "Mrs. Clinton" would be endeared to him if he used the C-word on her:):) LOL!

63 posted on 06/17/2004 4:13:25 PM PDT by BobS
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To: guitfiddlist

Lol. I'm a big blue lady. I'll have to remember those words of wisdom and make sure my mgrs are all men ; )


64 posted on 06/17/2004 6:30:22 PM PDT by softengine (Life is like a roll of toilet paper.....The closer you get to the end, the faster it goes.)
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To: Khurkris
and this person is a college President?

Hey, and Patsy Schroeder was a Congresswoman.

65 posted on 06/17/2004 6:39:04 PM PDT by jackbill
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To: billhilly

"Cute" is an anatomical term?


66 posted on 06/17/2004 6:39:37 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (...and the walls came tumbling down!)
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To: Hawk44

It evokes such a sense of animal-husbandry.


67 posted on 06/17/2004 6:42:40 PM PDT by AlbionGirl ('Bringing into captivity every understanding to the obedience of Christ.')
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea

No stupid, it was humor.


68 posted on 06/17/2004 6:49:18 PM PDT by billhilly (If you're lurking here from DU, I trust this post will make you sick)
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To: jackbill

Peppermimt Patty...white with red stripes. I remember her well.


69 posted on 06/17/2004 6:49:25 PM PDT by Khurkris (Will the wind ever remember the names it has blown in the past, It whispers no this will be the last)
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To: billhilly

Only is the eye of the beholder...


70 posted on 06/17/2004 7:18:51 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (...and the walls came tumbling down!)
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To: Sarah

I love living in the age of Google. Two minutes work and I can pass for educated, at least from a distance.


71 posted on 06/18/2004 6:02:40 AM PDT by NewMexLurker
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