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To: tpaine
No, it established a "Citizen of the United States" that was not already a "Citizen of the State".

The 13th, 14th, and 15th amendments dealt with the newly freed slaves. The slaves were not "Citizens of the State" in which they resided, nor did the state have the power to make them so (that was a function of the federal government).

402 posted on 06/21/2004 7:46:43 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen
 Posted by robertpaulsen:

The phrase "Citizen of the United States" was created by the 14th amendment.

Typical weird misinfo by the 'states rights' anti-constitutional crowd.

"The Fourteenth Amendment of the Constitution of the United States, ratified in 1868, creates or at least recognizes for the first time a citizenship of the United States, as distinct from that of the states." Black's Law Dictionary, 5th Edition, p. 591 [1979].

"Blacks" is wrong. All Representatives, Senators, & the President must be a "Citizen of the United States", as is specified in Articles I & II.

No, it established a "Citizen of the United States" that was not already a "Citizen of the State".

How dense can you get paulsen? There have always been "Citizens of the United States' who are not 'Citizens of a State'. They live in the territories or possessions of the United States. -- They also possess full individual rights as guaranteed by our US Constitution. -- AND; they do not lose the RKBA's when they move to California, as you claim.

The 13th, 14th, and 15th amendments dealt with the newly freed slaves. The slaves were not "Citizens of the State" in which they resided, nor did the state have the power to make them so (that was a function of the federal government).

Good grief. -- Where do you come up with these bizarre 'citizenship' theories, paulsen? Is there some specific site that posts this weird BS?

406 posted on 06/21/2004 8:14:25 AM PDT by tpaine (The line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being" -- Solzhenitsyn)
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