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No Evidence of Meeting With Iraqi (Atta in Prague)
New York Times ^ | June 16, 2004 | James Risen

Posted on 06/16/2004 7:20:03 PM PDT by Shermy

WASHINGTON, June 16 - A report of a clandestine meeting in Prague between Mohammed Atta and an Iraqi intelligence officer first surfaced shortly after the Sept. 11 attacks. And even though serious doubt was cast on the report, it was repeatedly cited by some Bush administration officials and others as evidence of a link between Al Qaeda and Iraq.

But on Wednesday, the Sept. 11 commission said its investigation had found that the meeting never took place.

In its report on the Sept. 11 plot, the commission staff disclosed for the first time F.B.I. evidence that strongly suggested that Mr. Atta was in the United States at the time of the supposed Prague meeting.

The report cited a photograph taken by a bank surveillance camera in Virginia showing Mr. Atta withdrawing money on April 4, 2001, a few days before the supposed Prague meeting on April 9, and records showing his cell phone was used on April 6, 9, 10 and 11 in Florida.

The supposed meeting in Prague by Mr. Atta, who flew one of the hijacked jets on Sept. 11, was a centerpiece of early efforts by the Bush administration and its conservative allies to link Iraq with the attacks as the administration sought to justify a war to topple Saddam Hussein.

The Sept. 11 commission report also forcefully dismissed the broader notion that there was a terrorist alliance between Iraq and Al Qaeda.

The report said there might have been contacts between Iraq and Al Qaeda after Osama bin Laden moved to Afghanistan in 1996, "but they do not appear to have resulted in a collaborative relationship."

In effect, the commission report endorsed the views of officials at the C.I.A. and F.B.I., who have long been dismissive of a supposed Prague meeting and of the administration's broader assertions concerning an Iraq-Qaeda alliance.

The panel's findings effectively rebuke the Pentagon's civilian leadership, which set up a small intelligence unit after the Sept. 11 attacks to hunt for links between Al Qaeda and Iraq. This team briefed senior policy makers at the Pentagon and the White House, saying that the C.I.A. had ignored evidence of such connections.

The C.I.A.'s evidence of contacts between Al Qaeda and Iraqi dates to the early 1990's, when Mr. bin Laden was living in Sudan. The debate within the government was over their meaning.

The C.I.A. concluded that the contacts never translated into joint operational activity on terrorist plots; the Pentagon believed the C.I.A. was understating the likelihood of a deeper relationship.

The staff report cited evidence that Mr. bin Laden explored the possibility of cooperation with Iraq in the early and mid-1990's, despite a deep antipathy for Saddam Hussein's secular regime.

The report said Sudanese officials, who at the time had close ties with Iraq, tried to persuade Mr. bin Laden to end his support for anti-Hussein Islamic militants operating in the Kurdish-controlled region of northern Iraq, and sought to arrange contacts between Al Qaeda and Iraqi intelligence.

A senior Iraqi intelligence officer reportedly visited Sudan three times and met Mr. bin Laden there in 1994. Mr. bin Laden reportedly requested space in Iraq to establish terrorist training camps as well as assistance in acquiring weapons, "but Iraq apparently never responded," the commission report stated.

The staff report added that two senior Qaeda operatives, previously identified as Abu Zubaydah and Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, "adamantly denied that any ties existed between Al Qaeda and Iraq."

Soon after the Sept. 11 attacks, Czech officials said they had received reports that Mr. Atta had met in April 2001 with Ahmad Khalil Ibrahim al-Ani, an Iraqi intelligence officer stationed in Prague.

But the C.I.A. and F.B.I., and some top Czech officials, quickly began to cast doubt on the story, and Czech security officials were never able to corroborate the initial report, which was based on a single source. That source made the report after the Sept. 11 attacks, when Mr. Atta's photograph was published worldwide, and after it had already been reported that Czech border records showed Mr. Atta had visited Prague a year earlier, in 2000.

The evidence concerning Mr. Atta's whereabouts in Virginia and Florida in early April 2001, at the time of the purported Prague meeting, severely weakens the case for it.

The staff report's findings on the Prague meeting were also based in part on reporting from unidentified detainees in United States custody. One is Mr. Ani, who was captured and taken into American custody after the 2003 invasion of Iraq. Under questioning, he has denied that the meeting ever happened, American officials have said.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 911commission; 911hijackers; alani; alqaedaandiraq; atta; czechatta; hijazi; prague; slimes
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To: piasa
A threatening message received by the Secret Service was relayed to the agents with the president that "Air Force One is next."

Quote from two of the anthrax letters: "THIS IS NEXT"

Similar wording?

121 posted on 06/20/2004 3:45:37 AM PDT by Khan Noonian Singh
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To: danamco
Billzo was given a visa through family contacts. Donchaknow his grandma on his momma's side was Roma?

Ends up the guy he visited was also Roma.

BTW, it was fairly easy to get a visa to Eastbloc at the time. (Circa 1966/68) Just about once a month a 2-day tourgroup made up mostly of 3rd Division soldiers traveled to Bratislava. You could also visit places in what is now Slovenia.

The Eastbloc emphasis in those days was in not letting people out while, simultaneously, earning hard currency.

122 posted on 06/20/2004 3:51:00 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Shermy; Mitchell

You are quite correct. The Tribune story is very misleading - it implies they have ATM pictures of Atta in Florida around April 9. In fact the only picture they have is of Atta withdrawing $8,000 cash in Virginia on April 4. If anything, that would indicate he needed cash for a trip he was about to take.

This whole Atta-Prague business continues to amaze.


123 posted on 06/20/2004 9:51:59 AM PDT by TrebleRebel
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To: TrebleRebel
This whole Atta-Prague business continues to amaze.

There's been more disinformation about this incident put out by the media than just about anything else I can think of. You never even hear any of them mention that there are at least two or three other clearly documented and proven trips to Prague by Atta, yet the tenor of the reports try to give the impression that he never went there. It seems deliberate to me.

124 posted on 06/20/2004 10:01:58 AM PDT by jpl ("America's greatest chapter is still to be written, for the best is yet to come." - Ronald W. Reagan)
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To: jpl; Shermy

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/040620/nysu011a_1.html

Newsweek has also learned that Czech investigators and U.S. intelligence
have now obtained corroborated evidence which they believe shows that the
Iraqi spy who allegedly met Atta was away from Prague on that day.


125 posted on 06/20/2004 10:10:19 AM PDT by TrebleRebel
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To: Shermy; jpl; Mitchell

So Newsweek have a new spin out. They now say Al-Ani was out of town on April 9!!!!

Kind of strange that the Czechs would expel him a few weeks afterwards! For attending a non-existing meeting with a Hamburg student that was deemed a threat to Radio Free Europe.

So why did they expel him exactly? And why has it taken two and half years for them to tell us that Al-Ani wasn't even in Prague on April 9?

Incredible!!!


126 posted on 06/20/2004 10:13:23 AM PDT by TrebleRebel
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To: TrebleRebel; Mitchell; Allan; Khan Noonian Singh; cyncooper
The vice president also reasserted his belief that a long-alleged meeting between 9/11 hijacker Muhammad Atta and an Iraqi intel agent on April 9, 2001, in Prague might have occurred. Some 9-11 staffers said they were astonished by this: their report, citing cell-phone records, concludes unambiguously that Atta could not have been in Prague on that date; he was in Florida. Newsweek has also learned that Czech investigators and U.S. intelligence have now obtained corroborated evidence which they believe shows that the Iraqi spy who allegedly met Atta was away from Prague on that day.

Will Isikoff dare put his name on this peice of disinfo? They made up the Vaclav Havel story...

And notice the political spin...what do these "staffers" know different than George Tenet, whom they don't mention, but said the same thing as Cheney?

Where there's smoke there's fire, and someone is worried about this story for sure...

127 posted on 06/20/2004 3:02:40 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: TrebleRebel

Assume its true - did they meet on another day? Did Atta meet Hijazi? I want to hear from the czechs.


128 posted on 06/20/2004 3:07:55 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Shermy

Notice the apparent confusion over the dates as well. The new Newsweek story says April 9. But the meeting was apparently April 8, right?


129 posted on 06/20/2004 3:28:11 PM PDT by TrebleRebel
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To: TrebleRebel

The Slate article says April 8. I'll check more.


130 posted on 06/20/2004 3:42:22 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: TrebleRebel

Ive seen both the 8th and ninth.

Interestingly, EJE reports that ATta met on the outskirts of Prague. So...Al ani or whomever could be described being "out of town"


BTW, why don't they tell us where he was?


131 posted on 06/20/2004 4:24:56 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: TrebleRebel
Notice the apparent confusion over the dates as well. The new Newsweek story says April 9. But the meeting was apparently April 8, right?

The meeting was scheduled for April 8 according to a calendar which was recently found, but he was actually eyewitnessed on April 9. He could have gotten there on either day.

I'm sure who's feeding Michael Isikoff this latest round of garbage about Al-Ani, but my first guess would be it's just another nameless, faceless, disgruntled left-wing bureaucrat in the State Department.

132 posted on 06/20/2004 6:40:46 PM PDT by jpl ("America's greatest chapter is still to be written, for the best is yet to come." - Ronald W. Reagan)
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To: TrebleRebel

Should read NOT sure.


133 posted on 06/20/2004 6:45:05 PM PDT by jpl ("America's greatest chapter is still to be written, for the best is yet to come." - Ronald W. Reagan)
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To: Shermy
"The report cited a photograph taken by a bank surveillance camera in Virginia showing Mr. Atta withdrawing money on April 4, 2001, a few days before the supposed Prague meeting on April 9, and records showing his cell phone was used on April 6, 9, 10 and 11 in Florida. " Facts: Today is Sunday, I'm going to the bank to make a withdrawal tomorrow. Thursday I will be in Toulouse, France. I'm leaving my cell phone with my daughter, who, I am certain, will not fail to use it in my absence.
134 posted on 06/20/2004 6:52:05 PM PDT by cookcounty (LBJ sent him to VN. Nixon expressed him home. And JfK's too dumb to tell them apart!)
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To: FairOpinion
"but the introduction of an anonymous “senior administration source” with an unknown agenda, whose claim that “the Czechs” doubted the meeting took place, has now been directly denied by the relevant officials."

Richard Clark?

135 posted on 06/20/2004 7:02:02 PM PDT by cookcounty (LBJ sent him to VN. Nixon expressed him home. And JfK's too dumb to tell them apart!)
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To: Kirkwood
" I never take my cellphone to Europe. It doesn't work there and one less thing to bother with. I can see where Atta would have left it for his terrorist pals in Florida to use while he was in Prague. "

Bingo. lots of them work in Europe now....but not back in 2001.

136 posted on 06/20/2004 7:08:22 PM PDT by cookcounty (LBJ sent him to VN. Nixon expressed him home. And JfK's too dumb to tell them apart!)
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To: cookcounty

Fortunately the American people seem to be smarter, than the media gives them credit for.

I just found and posted this:

Americans Disagree With 9/11 Commission on Al Qaeda Iraq Link (69% think there WAS link)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1157076/posts

(CPOD) Jun. 20, 2004 – Many Americans believe al-Qaeda may have worked alongside the regime of Saddam Hussein, according to a poll by Harris Interactive. 69 per cent of respondents believe the deposed Iraqi leader supported the terrorist network, while 22 per cent disagree.

On Jun. 16, the federal commission that is currently investigating the events of 9/11 stated that there had been "no collaborative relationship" between the deposed Iraqi regime and the terrorist network in the planning and carrying out of the 9/11 attacks. Al-Qaeda operatives hijacked and crashed four airplanes on Sept. 11, 2001, killing more than 3,000 people.

On Jun. 17, U.S. president George W. Bush said that his administration "never said that the 9/11 attacks were orchestrated between Saddam and al-Qaeda. We did say there were numerous contacts between Saddam Hussein and al-Qaeda." Vice-president Dick Cheney declared that the commission "did not address the broader question of a relationship between Iraq and al-Qaeda in other areas, in other ways" aside from the 9/11 attacks, and stated that the evidence of a link "is overwhelming."

Polling Data

Do you believe that Saddam Hussein was supporting the terrorist organization al-Qaeda, which attacked the United States on September 11, 2001?

Believe he was 69%

Do not believe he was 22%

Not sure 9%




137 posted on 06/20/2004 7:13:53 PM PDT by FairOpinion (If you are not voting for Bush, you are voting for the terrorists.)
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To: cyncooper

How did the US get hold of Mr. Al-Ani's diary?


138 posted on 06/20/2004 7:15:24 PM PDT by cookcounty (LBJ sent him to VN. Nixon expressed him home. And JfK's too dumb to tell them apart!)
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To: Shermy
"NEW YORK, Oct. 7 /PRNewswire/ -- The ringleader of the 19 hijackers from the Sept. 11 attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, Mohamed Atta, met twice with Iraq intelligence operatives in Prague, in June 2000 and then again last April, Newsweek reports in the current issue."

Hmmmm..."operatives"....in the plural.

139 posted on 06/20/2004 7:24:14 PM PDT by cookcounty (LBJ sent him to VN. Nixon expressed him home. And JfK's too dumb to tell them apart!)
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To: FairOpinion
Do you believe that Saddam Hussein was supporting the terrorist organization al-Qaeda, which attacked the United States on September 11, 2001?

Trick question. Careful pollees will cautiously answer "yes". The results will be spun to allege that pollees thought Hussein was directly connected to 9/11. Not unlike the Pew results sometime back similarly spun.

By the way, what is "supporting" - Hussein said he supported the facts.

140 posted on 06/20/2004 7:50:58 PM PDT by Shermy
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