Are Americans wimps and socialists?

email | Craig J. Cantoni

[Terpfen]

Boy, that's a way to get support from a target audience: insult them.

[The Green Goblin]

Are Americans wimps and socialists?

It should be obvious that far too many certainly are...

[Mr. Mojo]

They are neither. They are frogs.

Dems fightin' words!

[JustPlainJoe]

Are Americans wimps and socialists?

Our government has a party consisting of each of these two groups...

[The Ghost of FReepers Past]

I like the way this guy thinks. May I point out that $150,000 over a lifetime is only enough to put one child through K-12, and that's if you do not count the cost of interest since the funds are spent long before they're paid. Which brings me to the answer to his question. Why? Because the vast majority of Americans get far more than they give. It's a real deal for most, and the deal keeps growing. Most families add tremendously to the deficit each year; that is, they pay in far less than they receive in benefits. This is never really spelled out to them, or maybe more would show a guilty conscience and stop voting to plunder "the rich" even further.

Congress has figured out that they can bribe poeple with their own money -- or better, they can bribe people with their neighbor's money. Now most American's cannot afford to face the truth. They couldn't possibly fund the so-called "necessities" the gov't bestows on them. So they ease their guilt by living in denial.

[Consort]

Overthrown overlords would be replaced with other overlords, probably worse ones, and they would take measures to prevent future overthrows.

[nosofar]

They are neither. They are frogs.

Dems fightin' words!

I thought being called a frog was a compliment for a Dem.

[MadIvan]

Americans consider the French to be wimps and socialists, and the British call them frogs. Ironically, Americans are not wimps and socialists, but they are frogs.

Speaking as an outside observer, I believe America is two nations. Hold a mirror up to one of these nations, and this is who you will see:

Hold up a mirror to the other, you will see the coastal elites, cynical, socialist, with aspirations to emulate the qualities of their compatriots in France. This elite is intellecutally stunted - note how their discourse is limited to the regurgitation of left wing dogma - and culturally bankrupt: note their dependence on Hollywood. In their enclaves, often wealthier than the rest of America, they sneer at the previous reflection, hoping to lead the other America, kicking and screaming, to be like they are.

I do not believe they will succeed.

Regards, Ivan

[ICX]

"Are Americans wimps and socialists?"

www.democraticunderground.com

[scouse]

lives of tax servitude

I agree with this statement, however if you try to change it you will be met by a group of men wearing black body armor and carrying weapons. The gubmint has a lot of these people.

[longtermmemmory]

Which explains why democrats hate small business. The more small businesses the more people who have to sign and hate those fica's. The more employees the more people just pay and never feel the water boiling.

[OldFriend]

Because half of America pays NO taxes at all. One quarter of the rest vote demonrat no matter what and the rest of us are pulling the wagon.

[LowCountryJoe]

Our government has a party consisting of each of these two groups...

Don't even kid yourself that the Democratic Party has a monopoly on wimps and socialists but the interesting thing is, that most Democrats know that that's who they are. Many, many elected Republican politicians are not even aware that they have fallen prey to the principles (or more accurately, the lack of principles) of the Public Choice Theory (post#23 of linked thread).

[weegee]

Agreed. Some socialists deny what they are or say that there is no harm in promoting communism, marxism, or socialism.

They have gotten where they are today by incrementalism. It is not "the government" that has pushed this agenda. Look at how the socialists have infiltrated government. We tried to take a look in the years following WWII and some socialists didn't like what the public saw so they shouted "McCarthyism" and silenced some of their critics.

We may have won the Cold War against Soviet domination but we lost the parallel war against global socialism. I hope we don't make the same mistake with Islamofascism. We didn't with German Nazism or Japanese Imperialism.

[Hollywoodghost]

Just wait until we enter into a economic downturn. Things are Ok because most things are working. People can pay their bills. BUT--What happens if we have a downturn--a depression. People losing their jobs, their homes, there hope. What happens when only Spanish speaking people have jobs? What happens when 1/4 of the people are out of work? What happens when no one can buy a home or even shop at WalMart? It happened before--it can happen again. How will things go when the taxes cann't be collected? Social Change will be the order of the day and I believe it will be the socialists who will win the day with talk of Jobs in Nationalized companies, Free Medical care, free housing, free baby sitting, a new worker's paradise. And those who object will be sent to the re-learning camps. It is a sad road that FDR set us upon and one that can only lead to a USA version of the USSR. My dad always said that the time will come when Americans will flee to Russia for freedom. Lets do all we can to put that day off as long as possible.

[Eagle of Liberty]

Enact Fair Tax!

[RightWhale]

I have been writing about taxes for years and have usually been met by yawns

Yeah. Why is that? Metaphors too fresh?

[boris]

"For example, for homeowners with mortgages, property taxes are paid by the mortgage company and not directly by the homeowner."

This is simply untrue. I pay my property taxes every year, in November, by check.

--Boris

[LowCountryJoe]

...hoping to lead the other America, kicking and screaming, to be like they are.

Minus their money and developed self-importance, of course.

Of the the ones who feel that they are the intellectuals or the elite of our society, I often wonder just how many would have a seat at the "table of influence" if their movement toward American socialism/communism came to full fruition. Do you imagine that those "tools" who weren't invited would finally come to the understandings regarding the error of their thinking? Or are these people really that damn committed to egalitarianism? I'm not really sure about this.