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New additive may thwart meth makers
http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=11976104&BRD=2554&PAG=461&dept_id=507134&rfi=6 ^ | 6-16-04 | COURTNEY BRUMMER AND PHIL ROONEY

Posted on 06/16/2004 11:18:52 AM PDT by OXENinFLA

It's a significant and scientific step in the state's ongoing battle against methamphetamine.

A new additive has been created that can make anhydrous ammonia, a common farm fertilizer, ineffective for making meth, state drug enforcement officials said Monday.

Anhydrous ammonia is a chemical fertilizer widely used to boost crop production on Iowa farms. Anhydrous tanks are found on much of the state's agricultural land. The new additive was developed by Iowa State University researchers.

They won't release the name of the additive, what it's made of or how exactly it stops the meth-making process because it's under legal review by federal officials, and there may be patent issues; but state officials are assuring the public that the additive works.

"The science is good, and I am very pleased with this happening in Iowa," said Iowa's drug czar Marvin Van Haaften. "For the anhydrous, this has nationwide, maybe even beyond our nation" impact.

"I'm very excited about it," he said.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Iowa
KEYWORDS: meth; wod
Cool, sounds like a good way to stop the production, take away one of the main ingredients.

Of course I'm sure criminals will find ways around it.

1 posted on 06/16/2004 11:18:52 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: John Jorsett; 11th Earl of Mar; StriperSniper; Mo1; Peach; Howlin; kimmie7; 4integrity; ...

Stopping METH Ping.............


2 posted on 06/16/2004 11:19:52 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: OXENinFLA

Sounds like a good challenge for an adventurous organic chemistry student, maybe even a thesis.

I'm amazed this hasn't come up before, actually. Sounds better than limiting me to one small box of actifed per day.


3 posted on 06/16/2004 11:22:08 AM PDT by wingnutx (tanstaafl)
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To: OXENinFLA
They won't release the name of the additive,

Cyanide?
4 posted on 06/16/2004 11:22:28 AM PDT by anonymous_user (Am I passive aggressive? Ask me tomorrow.)
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To: anonymous_user

It has to be something unlikely to kill farmers or produce consumers.


5 posted on 06/16/2004 11:24:11 AM PDT by wingnutx (tanstaafl)
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To: OXENinFLA
They won't release the name of the additive, what it's made of or how exactly it stops the meth-making process

But they were willing to admit it "tastes like chicken" LOL!

6 posted on 06/16/2004 11:24:57 AM PDT by Mister Baredog ((Part of the Reagan legacy is to re-elect G.W. Bush))
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To: wingnutx
It's been nearly 20 years since I studied chemistry but could it possibly cause a bonding problem? Rather than creating one chemical reaction, a different one is created (maybe 2) with this additive?

And what of the new product? Is it lethal? Will trailer park chemists test their new batch before putting it on the streets? Or does it just clump up and visually become offputting?

7 posted on 06/16/2004 11:31:46 AM PDT by weegee (Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. ~~Ronald Reagan)
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To: OXENinFLA

Now, if the haircare industry would just find a shampoo additive that takes the mull off the mullet, trailer parks across the U.S. might again be semi-attractive places to live.


8 posted on 06/16/2004 11:34:50 AM PDT by hispanarepublicana (Free Brigette Bardot.)
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To: OXENinFLA
I'm sure criminals will find ways around it.

Never underestimate the ingenuity of the market. (Maybe they'll make their own anhydrous ammonia.)

9 posted on 06/16/2004 11:43:37 AM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: OXENinFLA

Simple: add a drop of WATER to each gallon, or add a hydroxy to the NH3 so that exposure to atmospheric humidity turns the ammonia to ammonium hydroxide. (Dope cooks don't use inert atmospheres in their coffee pots!)


10 posted on 06/16/2004 11:54:54 AM PDT by datura (Battlefield justice is what our enemies deserve. If you win, you live. If you lose, you die.)
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To: wingnutx
It has to be something unlikely to kill farmers or produce consumers

How unlikely?

50-50?

60-40?

Just askin...

and one more question - Is "produce" an adjective or a verb in your sentence?
11 posted on 06/16/2004 11:56:49 AM PDT by G L Tirebiter
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To: weegee
Think about what you would need a nitrogen compound for when changing the structure of an aromatic compound from an organic acid into an alkaloid, and how you would separate that alkaloid from the carrier......and whether it is polar or not and why....

One little electron.....

12 posted on 06/16/2004 12:16:44 PM PDT by Cobra Scott
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To: G L Tirebiter

"Produce" is a noun in this case. I think the act of producing consumers is outside the realm of chemisty :)

As for the odds of killing farmers, you'd better ask them.


13 posted on 06/16/2004 12:50:38 PM PDT by wingnutx (tanstaafl)
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To: datura
NH3 so that exposure to atmospheric humidity turns the ammonia to ammonium hydroxide.

That is what happens anyway.

When I was in high school in Iowa my most dreaded part of my job at the CO-OP Elevator involved running anhydrous ammonia from the tank into a tank truck.

No matter what we did, some would always make contact with moisture in the air and create a fine mist that looked like smoke. Burns the crap out of one's nose to say the least.

The anhydrous ammonia is injected into the ground as a nitrogen fertilizer but it first hydrates with soil moisture....otherwise it would all blow away.

14 posted on 06/16/2004 2:49:19 PM PDT by capt. norm (Rap is to music what the Etch-A-Sketch is to art.)
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