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1 posted on 06/16/2004 9:25:10 AM PDT by NYer
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but prosecutors never gave him the chance to properly grieve

This should retire the 'Chutzpah' trophy.

34 posted on 06/16/2004 9:50:06 AM PDT by Semper Paratus
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In NOBLER times, that guy would've been taken out back and shot like a rabid dog. Sickening.


36 posted on 06/16/2004 9:50:14 AM PDT by BSunday (RWR - America is a better place because of you.)
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Headline should have read "hanged", not "hung".


42 posted on 06/16/2004 9:54:50 AM PDT by MistrX
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Walsh said he would recommend that Lucie serve his sentence at the Clinton Correctional Facility,

How ironic that a sex perv gets to serve his sentence at the CLINTON Correctional Facility.

44 posted on 06/16/2004 9:57:11 AM PDT by Go Gordon
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awful. I am at a loss for words.


52 posted on 06/16/2004 10:04:18 AM PDT by Teplukin
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Calling this guy A Father, is an insult to everything this title stands for. He may have sired his helpless young victem, but A Father he ain't!

I supose that 50 years for this crime is about as good as liberal dominated New York can muster, but it ain't nearly enough! Death by hanging, just as his victem chose in her shame, dissappointment and grief over being betrayed by the very one that little girls look to for refuge, comfort, and guidance, ain't enough either, but it would better indicate that just maybe, the law considered her life at least as precious as her assailant's.


58 posted on 06/16/2004 10:12:11 AM PDT by F.J. Mitchell ( Kerry's for the little people- for the little people being used as spare parts that is.)
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Hold on a sec here!

The article speaks of no evidence that was used to convict him other than a coersed statement that was retracted.

I'd hate to think that it is true but even more cruel would be to be falsely convicted of it.

Put yourself in his shoes as a possibly innocent man and think about it for a minute.

(Maybe it is just a poorly written article, I don't know anything about the case - but based on this article alone something sounds fishy.)


63 posted on 06/16/2004 10:14:31 AM PDT by kpp_kpp
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"...the Clinton Correctional Facility"

Speaking of that, I thought America had decided that RAPE was no longer a criminal offense...heck, Slick Willie RAPED Juanita Broadrick and we made him President!!

SHEEEESH...MUD

64 posted on 06/16/2004 10:15:29 AM PDT by Mudboy Slim ("DemonRATS" Is Their Name...Socialism Is Their Aim!!)
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"to say what a wonderful child she was, how she was loved and how she will be missed,"

I'm not sure how this is relevant in a criminal trial.

70 posted on 06/16/2004 10:20:01 AM PDT by MEGoody (Kerry - isn't that a girl's name? (Conan O'Brian))
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this kind usually do not last very long in the poke.
74 posted on 06/16/2004 10:21:58 AM PDT by camas
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Walsh said he would recommend that Lucie serve his sentence at the Clinton Correctional Facility, in a special program that isolates inmates who may be at risk from other prisoners because of the crimes they committed.

Aptly named.

78 posted on 06/16/2004 10:27:37 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn't be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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inmates who may be at risk from other prisoners because of the crimes they committed.

Translation: Pedophiles who rape children.

79 posted on 06/16/2004 10:29:05 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn't be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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His wife, Andrea Lucie, hurried from the courtroom in tears, refusing to talk to reporters. She testified in her husband's defense.

She deserves 50 years too.

86 posted on 06/16/2004 10:46:34 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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He most likely will get killed or wish we was dead in jail, no matter where they put him, pedophiles don't fare too well in jail.


103 posted on 06/16/2004 11:15:36 AM PDT by Delbert
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Spado said the jury was not allowed to consider Valerie's death as it deliberated the case.

LOL, yeah, right.

108 posted on 06/16/2004 11:21:28 AM PDT by Sloth (We cannot defeat foreign enemies of the Constitution if we yield to the domestic ones.)
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well hopefully he'll meet Bubba in the shower a few times and learn what it was like for his daughter.


109 posted on 06/16/2004 11:22:02 AM PDT by Johnny Gage (Will ZOT for Beer!)
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I read somewhere that the mother lost custody of her 4 sons. If that is the case surely something more is going on that we just dont know about yet.


121 posted on 06/16/2004 11:51:09 AM PDT by alisasny (GODSPEED DEAR SWEET PRINCE OF MEN RONALD REAGAN : ))
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I am afraid that sentence is not enough but I don't think he will make it very long.
People like him are considered the lowest form of vermin in the prison hierarchy and mark my words he will pay for this crime.


136 posted on 06/16/2004 12:25:43 PM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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Still looking for evidence other than the confession... I can't even find anything that tells why the police would be asking about rape. Again, not claiming he is innocent, but it certainly doesn't make sense.

http://www.courttv.com/news/2004/0527/dad_ap.html
"Lucie confessed to the rape after a six-hour interrogation in October, but he later recanted. He said the confession was coerced by police, who threatened to arrest his wife and take away his four younger sons if he didn't admit to the sexual attack."

I don't get why the police where asking him to admit to a sexual attack if there was no evidence of one.

I know I'm in no place to make a judgment either way but there must be something else besides a recanted statement - whether or not it was coerced is almost beside the point, the prosecutor couldn't find anyone to speak against him or his character, nor did they have any other evidence.


145 posted on 06/16/2004 12:46:39 PM PDT by kpp_kpp
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...who later hung herself.

Shoot the damned writer and the editor that let this get by. The girl "hanged" herself. Girls ain't hung.

162 posted on 06/16/2004 1:28:06 PM PDT by Junior (Love isn't always on time. Sometimes you have to pay for it up front.)
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