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1 posted on 06/16/2004 8:58:28 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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"Two senior bin Laden associates have adamantly denied that any ties existed between al-Qaida and Iraq," the report said.

LOL!

2 posted on 06/16/2004 9:00:11 AM PDT by plain talk
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Remember Salman Pak!
3 posted on 06/16/2004 9:00:27 AM PDT by Steven W.
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4 posted on 06/16/2004 9:00:58 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi Mac ... Become a FR Monthly Donor ... In Memoriam Ronaldus Magnus)
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While Saddam dispatched a senior Iraqi intelligence official to Sudan to meet with bin Laden in 1994, the commission said it had not turned up evidence of a "collaborative relationship."

What the.....??!!

Oh, I get it--it depends on the definition of "collaborative relationship", i.e. there's no evidence that Saddam Hussein engaged in oral sex with Osama bin Laden.

5 posted on 06/16/2004 9:02:48 AM PDT by randog (Everything works great 'til the current flows.)
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I say we should now create a commission to investigate the 9/11 commission.


6 posted on 06/16/2004 9:03:26 AM PDT by Arpege92 (Republicans believe everyday is the 4th of July, Democrats believe everyday is April 15th - Gipper)
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Uh, huh. Yeah. Ok.

What about this...

The Definitive Link List - Iraq-Al Qaeda Connections
Collected  

1993

Saddam's Fingerprints on NY Bombing
June 28, 1993
The Wall Street Journal
Reproduced Online: http://www.mondopolitico.com/discus/messages/441/1207.html?1070677043

1998

BIN LADEN, ATEF INDICTED IN U.S. FEDERAL COURT FOR AFRICAN BOMBINGS
November 4, 1998
http://usinfo.state.gov/topical/pol/terror/98110402.htm

"In addition, al Qaeda reached an understanding with the Government of Iraq that al Qaeda would not work against that government and that on particular projects, specifically including weapons development, al Qaeda would work cooperatively with the Government of Iraq," the indictment said. "

Bin Laden and Iraq Agreed to Cooperate on Weapons Development
New York Times
November 5, 1998
Section A; Page 1; Column 2; Foreign Desk
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F10910F73D5A0C768CDDA80994D0494D81

1999

Western Nightmare
February 6, 1999
http://www.guardian.co.uk/alqaida/story/0,12469,798270,00.html

Saddam's link to OBL
February 6, 1999
http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,314700,00.html

2001

Gunning for Saddam
October 18, 2001
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/gunning/interviews/mylroie.html

Saddam Controlled the Camp: The Iraqi Connection
November 11, 2001
http://politics.guardian.co.uk/archive/article/0,,4296646,00.html

2002

Iraq's Tie to Al-Qaeda Terrorists, Airline Hijackings
January 7, 2002
Aviation Week & Space Technology
Reproduced Online: http://www.ourjerusalem.com/news/story/news20030315.html

Lawsuit: Iraq Involved In 9/11 Conspiracy
September 5, 2002
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/09/05/september11/main520874.shtml

2003

The Unkwown - The C.I.A. and the Pentagon take another look at Al Qaeda and Iraq
February 3, 2003
http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/?030210fa_fact

Al Qaeda, Iraq partners in terror -- Powell
February 5, 2003
http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/02/05/sprj.irq.alqaeda.links/

The proof that Saddam worked with bin Laden
April 27, 2003
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=%2Fnews%2F2003%2F04%2F27%2Fwalq27.xml

Oil for Food Sales Seen As Iraq Tie To Al Qaeda
June 20, 2003
http://www.forward.com/issues/2003/03.06.20/news2.html

Document links Saddam, bin Laden
June 25, 2003
http://tennessean.com/nation-world/archives/03/06/34908297.shtml?Element_ID=34908297

The AQ connection
July 11, 2003
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/002/889jldct.asp

Growing Evidence of a Saddam - al-Qaeda Link
July 15, 2003
http://www.frontpagemagazine.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=8927

Saddam's al Qaeda Connection
September 1-8, 2003
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/003/033jgqyi.asp

Memo shows Iraq, Iran tried to contact bin Laden
September 12, 2003
http://www.washtimes.com/world/20030912-012437-3992r.htm

No Question About It: Saddam and the terrorists
September 19, 2003
http://www.nationalreview.com/robbins/robbins091903.asp

Iraq: A Federal Judge's Point of View
September 20, 2003
http://globalspecops.com/view.html

Iraq and al Qaeda - There's more evidence of a link than the critics admit
Septembe 23, 2003
http://opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110004046

The Iraq -- Al Qaeda Connections
September 25, 2003
http://www.techcentralstation.com/092503F.html

Saddam's Terror Ties - Iraq-war critics ignore ample evidence
October 21, 2003
http://www.nationalreview.com/murdock/murdock200310210934.asp

Osama's Best Friend
November 3, 2003
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/003/296fmttq.asp

Case Closed
November 24, 2003
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/003/378fmxyz.asp

The Clinton View of Iraq-al Qaeda Ties
December 29, 2003-January 5, 2004
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/003/527uwabl.asp

2004

Tape Shows General Clark Linking Iraq and Al Qaeda
January 12, 2004
New York Times
Reproduced Online: http://www.ndtceda.com/archives/200401/0142.html

Saddam's Ambassador to al-Qaeda
February 23, 2004
http://frontpagemagazine.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=12292

Interview with James Woolsey
March 23, 2004
http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0403/23/ldt.00.html (scroll down for interview with Lou Dobbs and James Woolsey)

Al Qaeda's Poison Gas
April 29, 2004
http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110005016

The Connection
June 7, 2004
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/004/152lndzv.asp?ZoomFont=YES


9 posted on 06/16/2004 9:05:51 AM PDT by mattdono (To President Reagan: Rest now. Look in on us. Enjoy eternity. I'll see you again some day.)
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"Two senior bin Laden associates have adamantly denied that any ties existed between al-Qaida and Iraq," the report said.

When did THEY testify before the commission ?

11 posted on 06/16/2004 9:07:12 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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=========== Documents linking Atta, Saddam, Nidal, bin Ladin ===========

Handwritten letter dated Feb. 19, 1998 linking bin Laden and Saddam Hussein
discussing arrival of a secret envoy sent by bin Laden to Iraq.
The signature beneath the letter is a codename, "MDA" - the Mukhabarat.


========= Chemical Warhead found in Kirkuk =============

Chemical warhead found at an Iraqi air base, marked with a green band,
the symbol for chemical weaponry
. Trace amounts of a nerve agent were found
at two spots along the ~meter-long warhead. These amounts are consistent with
leakage from the chemically armed weapon. A 13-foot missile was found next to it.


========= Halabja =========

Dead children, previously playing in Halabja
Victims of Saddams' WMD in March 1988.


Also found in Iraq:

* A clandestine network of laboratories and safehouses within the Iraqi Intelligence Service
that contained equipment subject to UN monitoring and suitable for continuing CBW research.

* A prison laboratory complex, possibly used in human testing of BW agents, that Iraqi officials
working to prepare for UN inspections were explicitly ordered not to declare to the UN.

* Reference strains of biological organisms concealed in a scientist's home,
one of which can be used to produce biological weapons.

* New research on BW-applicable agents, Brucella and Congo Crimean Hemorrhagic Fever (CCHF),
and continuing work on ricin and aflatoxin were not declared to the UN.

* Documents and equipment, hidden in scientists' homes, that would have been useful in
resuming uranium enrichment by centrifuge and electromagnetic isotope separation (EMIS).

* A line of UAVs not fully declared at an undeclared production facility and an admission
that they had tested one of their declared UAVs out to a range of 500 km, 350 km beyond the permissible limit.

* Continuing covert capability to manufacture fuel propellant useful only for prohibited SCUD variant missiles,
a capability that was maintained at least until the end of 2001 and that cooperating Iraqi scientists
have said they were told to conceal from the UN.

* Plans and advanced design work for new long-range missiles with ranges up to at least 1000 km -
well beyond the 150 km range limit imposed by the UN. Missiles of a 1000 km range would have allowed
Iraq to threaten targets through out the Middle East, including Ankara, Cairo, and Abu Dhabi.

Clandestine attempts between late-1999 and 2002 to obtain from North Korea technology
related to 1,300 km range ballistic missiles --probably the No Dong -- 300 km range anti-ship cruise missiles,
and other prohibited military equipment.


Still missing based on the UNSCOM report to the UN Security Council in January 1999,
when the UN inspectors left Iraq in 1998, they had been unable to account for:

• up to 360 tons of bulk chemical warfare agents, including 1.5 tons of VX nerve agent;

• up to 3,000 tons of precursor chemicals, including approximately 300 tons which,
in the Iraqi chemical warfare program, were unique to the production of VX;

• growth media procured for biological agent production (enough to produce
over three times the 8,500 litres of anthrax spores Iraq admitted to UN inspectors to having manufactured);

• over 30,000 special munitions for delivery of chemical and biological agents;

• 20 al-Hussein missles with a range of 650 km, in violation
of UN Security Council Resolution 687 (Iraq had told UNSCOM that it filled these warheads with anthrax and botulinum);

• 2,850 tons of mustard gas, 210 tons of tabun, and 795 tons of sarin and cyclosarin;

• development of the Al-Samoud short-range missle (which had the capability to fly beyond the 150 km allowed by UN resolutions)


Who's Who on the 9/11 "Independent" Commission


"According to a 1998 Senate testimony of former CIA director James
Woolsey, powerful financier Khalid bin Mahfouz’ younger sister is
married to Osama bin Laden,. (US Senate, Senate Judiciary
Committee, Federal News Service, 3 Sept. 1998, See also Wayne
Madsen, Questionable Ties, In These Times,12 Nov. 2001 )
Bin Mahfouz is suspected to have funneled millions of dollars to the Al
Qaeda network.(See Tom Flocco, Scoop.co.nz 28 Aug. 2002)
Now, "by sheer coincidence", former New Jersey governor Thomas
Kean, the man chosen by President Bush to lead the 9/11 commission
also has business ties with bin Mahfouz and Al-Amoudi.
Thomas Kean is a director (and shareholder) of Amerada Hess
Corporation , which is involved in the Hess-Delta joint venture with
Delta Oil of Saudi Arabia (owned by the bin Mahfouz and Al-Amoudi
clans)...
Now you would think that being a business partner of the brother in
law and alleged financier of "Enemy No. 1" would also be considered a
bona fide "conflict of interest", particularly when your mandate --as
part of the 9/11 Commission's work-- is to investigate "Enemy No. 1".
"(Michel Chossudovsky, New Chairman of 9/11 Commission had
business ties with Osama's Brother in Law,
Centre for Research on Globalization, December 2002 )



Commissioner Kean: "Ms Gorelick is one of the finest members
of the commission and one of the most bipartisan members.
People ought to stay out of our business"


911 Commission Meets


14 posted on 06/16/2004 9:08:31 AM PDT by Diogenesis (We do only what we are meant to do)
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there was "no credible evidence" that Saddam Hussein helped al-Qaida target the United States.

Of course, the fact that Al-Qaida was in Iraq and being assisted there, has no bearing - they didn't actually get in on the planning.

The same twits who will argue this, will not hesitate to try to sue a gun manufacturer for someone else's crime..

15 posted on 06/16/2004 9:11:03 AM PDT by trebb (Ain't God good . . .)
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Was this within the scope of the commission's mission? I don't think so....
16 posted on 06/16/2004 9:11:16 AM PDT by clintonh8r (Retrosexual Vietnam veteran against John Kerry, proud to be a "crook" and a "liar.")
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Jamie Gore lick has served her purpose for the democrta party. No trail that extends back into the sinkEmperor's administration will be allowed to see the light of public opinion. The commission is a sickening joke.


19 posted on 06/16/2004 9:13:36 AM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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While Saddam dispatched a senior Iraqi intelligence official to Sudan to meet with bin Laden in 1994, the commission said it had not turned up evidence of a "collaborative relationship."

They evdidence is there if the commission really wanted to look for it

20 posted on 06/16/2004 9:17:57 AM PDT by Mo1 (That's right Old Media .... WE LOVED PRESIDENT REAGAN)
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While Saddam dispatched a senior Iraqi intelligence official to Sudan to meet with bin Laden in 1994, the commission said it had not turned up evidence of a "collaborative relationship."

Hey if they don't have the same union card and aren't getting a paystub directly from OBL then they can't be working together. Oh yeah, and oral sex isn't sex, OJ was innocent and Terezzzzza Tootsie Kerry is sexy.

24 posted on 06/16/2004 9:25:22 AM PDT by rhombus
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Al Qaeda is Saddam's 527 - nope they don't work together.


25 posted on 06/16/2004 9:27:23 AM PDT by rhombus
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Al Qaeda is Saddam's 527 - nope they don't work together.


26 posted on 06/16/2004 9:27:26 AM PDT by rhombus
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"Two senior bin Laden associates have adamantly denied that any ties existed between al-Qaida and Iraq," the report said.

Oh - well then - there you have it. Our 9/11 Commission actually quoting terrorists to validate their conclusion. What the hell is going on here?

28 posted on 06/16/2004 9:38:05 AM PDT by capydick ("There's no question I'm an idealist, which is another way of saying I am an American.")
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If brains = explosives the collective bang from the 911 commission members wouldn't knock the pants off a gnat.

What a bunch of losers especially that RHINO John "stab them in the back" Warner.

30 posted on 06/16/2004 10:21:33 AM PDT by Militiaman7 (Fear not tomorrow, God is already there.)
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The entire "9/11" Commission report will sit gathering dust on the shelf right next to another "truthful, factual, and unbiased" report called the Warren Commission Report on the Assassination of John F. Kennedy".

Ah well, . . . and so it goes!


32 posted on 06/16/2004 10:25:53 AM PDT by Logic n' Reason (Don't piss down my back and tell me it's rainin')
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The 9-11 panel members working behind the scenes:


36 posted on 06/16/2004 10:42:07 AM PDT by hattend
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Yahoo is carrying article title as "9/11 Panel Disputes Iraq Link to Attacks"..

hmmmmm?

as in, there is some evidence but ... we choose not to accept or acknowledge it.. or ??

37 posted on 06/16/2004 10:44:49 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi Mac ... Become a FR Monthly Donor ... In Memoriam Ronaldus Magnus)
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