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To: Fifthmark

First, please explain objective reality, and why God's existence and His Revelation represent facts? Second, why must His Revelation be sought?


60 posted on 06/18/2004 5:56:24 AM PDT by stuartcr
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To: stuartcr

Objective reality is reality that exists independently of the observer. God's existence is objective and does not need the verification of the observer in order to be true. We can verify His existence and substantiate His reality through proofs, as St. Thomas Aquinas and many other theologians have done admirably. Here is St. Thomas on "Whether God exists?":

http://www.newadvent.org/summa/100203.htm

If God does exist, then we are entirely dependent on Him and must recognize that dependence through honoring and worshipping Him. This honor and worship is the virtue of religion, which must be practiced in accordance to His Will, known to us through His Revelation. To know Revelation is to understand the truths He wishes us to possess and the moral virtues He calls us to practice. In the end, He will judge us according to our belief in Him and the practice of these moral virtues so that we might either merit eternal pleasure with Him, our greatest good, in Heaven or be separated from Him forever through eternal reprobation.


67 posted on 06/18/2004 6:59:26 AM PDT by Fifthmark
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To: stuartcr

why must His Revelation be sought?



surely you jest...
The God of some religions, is forever engaged in the game of hide and seek... designed to keep the terrified cowering "sinner" ever seeking, but never coming to the knowlege of the undiscoverable truth.... for a small fee, of course.

Then their "merciful" God damns the poor 'little' people to an eternity in an unrelenting hell fire, for not being smart enough to discover the TRUE "revelation".

On the one hand he HIDES the candy in the clergy's pockets... and then abuses the child seeking a tasty treat.

It's all the same game.
bait and switch,
damned if you don't, damned if you do... either way the leadership of the religious nutcakes society collects another ten percent, and may get your underage son too.

Religious Europe was a blood bath for centuries.
Our families came here to get away from the persecution, and the right to pursue an "INDIVIDUAL" faith in God apart from th corrupted perversions of the religious leadership in Europe.

The inquisition was evil. So were its perpetrators.
They and their followers will likely spend eternity, in the very same pits, they HOPED they were condemning the "unrepentant" sinners unto.

good.
wouldn't want them stinking up the pearly gates.


221 posted on 06/21/2004 3:46:13 AM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (the madridification of our election is now officially underway.)
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