To: js1138
The essential purpose of the State is to protect the welfare of its citizens. If you consider the salvation of each inhabitant through belief in the true religion revealed by God part of that "welfare," then the State has an obligation to support the true religion and repress public dissidence against it while allowing those who wish to privately hold their erroneous views to do so. This is the way that Christendom operated until the advent of Protestantism, which denied the authority of the sole possessor and guardian of the true religion, the Catholic Church, created a rift between the two arms of society and eventually found enshrinement in the Freemasonic notion of "separation of Church and State." This, as you so aptly demonstrate, has led to the subjugation of the Church to the State, essentially turning true authority upside down and placing man before God. We are paying for it in spades.
To: Fifthmark
Protestantism is the best thing that happened to the world, second only to the birth, death and resurrection of Christ.
I find it sick and insulting that some people here want to 'explain', and 'excuse', or even make the 'case' for such crimes. Even the Pope had the honesty of making an apology.
28 posted on
06/16/2004 2:35:17 PM PDT by
gedeon3
To: Fifthmark
' the true religion'
What a joke. God is not a religion nor is he in the midst of religion.
29 posted on
06/16/2004 2:44:12 PM PDT by
gedeon3
To: Fifthmark
If you consider the salvation of each inhabitant through belief in the true religion revealed by God part of that "welfare," then the State has an obligation to support the true religion and repress public dissidence against it while allowing those who wish to privately hold their erroneous views to do so. Fortunately the American Constitution explicitely prohibits this activity. You will understand why if Islam continues to grow.
32 posted on
06/16/2004 3:31:11 PM PDT by
js1138
(In a minute there is time, for decisions and revisions which a minute will reverse. J Forbes Kerry)
To: tpaine; Modernman; MineralMan; poink; All
"The essential purpose of the State is to protect the welfare of its citizens. If you consider the salvation of each inhabitant through belief in the true religion revealed by God part of that "welfare," then the State has an obligation to support the true religion and repress public dissidence against it while allowing those who wish to privately hold their erroneous views to do so. This is the way that Christendom operated until the advent of Protestantism, which denied the authority of the sole possessor and guardian of the true religion, the Catholic Church, created a rift between the two arms of society and eventually found enshrinement in the Freemasonic notion of "separation of Church and State." This, as you so aptly demonstrate, has led to the subjugation of the Church to the State, essentially turning true authority upside down and placing man before God. We are paying for it in spades." This needs no modification. It clearly speaks for itself.
80 posted on
06/18/2004 8:20:21 AM PDT by
Long Cut
(Certainty of Death, small chance of Success...What are we waiting for?...Gimli the Dwarf)
To: Fifthmark
If you consider the salvation of each inhabitant through belief in the true religion revealed by God part of that "welfare," then the State has an obligation to support the true religion and repress public dissidence against it No, I do not. Any American loyal to our Constitution and to American ideals cannot agree that the State has any business deciding the "true" religion of the people.
Remember- our 1st Amendment rights vis a vis religion are protected by our 2nd Amendment right to shoot anyone attempting to impose a theocracy on us.
130 posted on
06/18/2004 11:57:17 AM PDT by
Modernman
("I don't care to belong to a club that accepts people like me as members" -Groucho Marx)
To: Fifthmark
I take it you want the state to promote the one true faith...like my Protestant beliefs, right?..
189 posted on
06/19/2004 3:10:47 AM PDT by
MEG33
(John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security)
To: Fifthmark; Long Cut; hchutch; rdb3; Modernman
The essential purpose of the State is to protect the welfare of its citizens. If you consider the salvation of each inhabitant through belief in the true religion revealed by God part of that "welfare," then the State has an obligation to support the true religion and repress public dissidence against itI will repeat what I said to the last seditionist piece of excrement that wandered onto this board.
21 years ago, I swore an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic.
Engage in intellectual onanism on this topic to your heart's content. Act on this sentiment at your peril.
222 posted on
06/21/2004 4:07:05 AM PDT by
Poohbah
("Mister Gorbachev, TEAR DOWN THIS WALL!" -- President Ronald Reagan, Berlin, 1987)
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