Posted on 06/14/2004 10:51:22 PM PDT by shadowman99
If he used a book, it wasn't from scratch. At least in my opinion, "from scratch" means with basically nothing pre-existing. According to his instructor Tannenbaum he used the existing Minix file structure, so it wasn't "from scratch", per my understanding of what that means.
Wanna know something else? All those programmers you claim to manage--they're all stealing someone else's code,or at least their ideas. Do you actually permit that?
Should I call the authorities and report you for plagiarism since you are using words someone else "invented?"
Because there's nothing common between those names when you want to speak of them collectively. Right now, "Linux" is it, if you want that changed, I'd suggest going with the existing movement to call it "GNU/Linux".
Another common term re-defined.
So when your wife bakes a cake "from scratch", does she
Sure you can, because baking is referring to the elements used, none were pre-mixed, all raw. Torvalds used an existing product to make his - the exact same ready made file system from Minix, or at least according to Tannenbaum, although I'm personally not that trusting of these guys over in Europe who clone US products and give them away for free.
To be truly "from scratch", that's about what it would take, raw elements. My grandmother used to pretty much do all that except for the sugar. And that's the only way to get all the preservatives and other crap they add to things nowdays out of there - to literally make it from scratch.
Let him have it his way. Using Golden Eagle's logic there could be no more software patents and no more copyrights. Because nobody acually creates anything, it's all learned from somewhere else.
This means Microsoft hasn't created anything either. After all, everyone who has ever worked for them went to school. Read Books. Studied other people's code. It's all so dirty!
Everyone who ever learned something from somewhere else is unable to exclusively claim ownership of invention.
Damn, Golden Eagle! You're quite the little commie!
I think you know you got that one wrong, LOL! I just don't see what the big deal is, very few operating systems were independently created, yet the Linux crowd has an aneurysm over admitting Linux is based on Unix, Posix, Minix, whatever. It obviously was, even Torvalds admits it, so you're right about one (1) thing, definitely time to move on!
Bump to read later after the next "Star Trek" convention.
Hard to know. We do know this:
http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph/?host=www.dnc.org
http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph/?host=www.johnkerry.com
http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=www.rnc.org
http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=www.georgewbush.com
What relevance does this have, if any? FR runs on Linux. Certianly, you're not suggesting the management here are leftists or agents of the Chinese?
All of human IP may actually belong to many extinct species. Where does that leave M$ in claiming to have invented or, more likely bought the rights, to all al-gore-rithims known to (wo)man.
For a poster who has actually used a formula to explain a point, I believe that GE just likes to play dumb (uneducated, stupid etc.) for some, as yet unknown, purpose.
To be so pedantic about the use or non-use of of the word "invent" wrt to computer code is ridiculous.
Our task is to flush out the reason (not that it could possibly BE reasonable OR rational) for such behavior (maybe he's on the staff at AdTI as Brown's research assistant?).
This point has been raised before without any response. IT is always met with silence or a change in subject.
Why should we believe ANYTHING he has to say?
He asked what software might world leaders be using, I showed him what the next President of the US is using, whoever that may be.
Certianly, you're not suggesting the management here are leftists or agents of the Chinese?
Of course not. Doesn't mean I don't wish they would switch to Solaris or another brand of Unix. Hopefully they will, they are some of the greatest people in the world, and I'd prefer to see them on something else. Like, say, what the RNC and GWB campaign is using. Nothing wrong with wishing that is there. Obviously not my decision though, nor do I presume it to be.
If this is all you have to chime in, you might as well keep it to yourself. As to the rest of your post, it was ignored, being certainly worthless, anyway.
Mainly because that stuff is pirateware, isn't it? If not Red Hat would be carrying it in their complete distribution of GNU/Linux, don't you think?
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