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Reaganite by Association? His Family Won't Allow It
NY Times ^ | June 15, 2004 | Sheryl Gay Stolberg

Posted on 06/14/2004 10:44:20 PM PDT by RWR8189

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1 posted on 06/14/2004 10:44:21 PM PDT by RWR8189
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I read a few paragraphs and then just did a word search. ABSOLUTELY NO MENTION OF MICHAEL REAGAN.

Not all Reagans share political beliefs and I remember Ron Junior's old tv show. Who cares what he thinks about President Bush?

2 posted on 06/14/2004 10:50:16 PM PDT by weegee (Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. ~~Ronald Reagan)
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To: RWR8189

Fortunately or maybe unfortunately from the Reagan family members point of view, they do not get to assign his mantel. The American people will look and see another president unpopular with the American and European left who is said to shoot from the hip, be a cowboy, support tax cuts that harm to poor and cause terrible deficits etc and they will draw the conclusions they choose to draw.

Mrs. Reagan nor her children get to determine the conclusion the American people draw. I am betting that a significant number of people will get it and see that George W. Bush is being treated quite similarly to Reagan and Reagan was shown to be right by history.

And of course I would think that Michael Reagan would have some input too?


3 posted on 06/14/2004 10:53:54 PM PDT by JLS
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To: RWR8189
Last year, in an interview with the online magazine Salon, Mr. Reagan renewed his critique, making clear his distaste for the Bush administration.

We should pay attention to what's published in Salon. Their stock value doubled earlier this year and they could really have something to contribute to political discourse. < /sarcasm >

Obligatory Salon Stock Deathwatch:


4 posted on 06/14/2004 10:55:22 PM PDT by weegee (Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. ~~Ronald Reagan)
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Mr. Reagan said then. "Yes, some of the current policies are an extension of the 80's. But the overall thrust of this administration is not my father's - these people are overly reaching, overly aggressive, overly secretive and just plain corrupt. I don't trust these people."

Iraq ain't Grenada, that much is for certain...

5 posted on 06/14/2004 10:55:59 PM PDT by Gunslingr3
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To: JLS

Mrs. Kennedy said a lot of things about Jack after his death that we knew were not true. "Camelot" was a myth.


6 posted on 06/14/2004 10:57:05 PM PDT by weegee (Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. ~~Ronald Reagan)
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To: Gunslingr3

Who cares what this self-absorbed little ballerina says?


7 posted on 06/14/2004 10:58:11 PM PDT by raptor29
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To: RWR8189

The only thing that matters is how Nancy feels about supporting Bush/Cheney. Michael may have something to say about it on his radio show later on down the road.


8 posted on 06/14/2004 10:58:55 PM PDT by dc-zoo
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Yes, George Bush and the surviving members of Ronald Reagan's family differ on the issue of stem cell research.

The rest of this article is gibberish. Quotith the legendary NY Times "unnamed strategist":

"I thought his speech was deliberately biographical in nature about Reagan, to try to show people that his biography is close to Bush's."

I got ten bucks that says the "unnamed strategist" is named Sheryl Gay Stolberg. I could be wrong though, it could be Greg Packer.

9 posted on 06/14/2004 11:00:25 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Gunslingr3
But the overall thrust of this administration is not my father's

Funny how the left tried painting those 12 years as "Reagan-Bush" and then tried to say that the election of George W. Bush and his administration choices would be even more "Reagan-Bush".

Now that they learn that people still LIKE Reagan, we hear how it isn't "Reagan-Bush" after all. Also, these same leftists HATED Reagan's America. I am supposed to believe that they begrudgingly admit to liking it? John Kerry didn't get the memo when he addressed the DNC last October.

10 posted on 06/14/2004 11:00:33 PM PDT by weegee (Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. ~~Ronald Reagan)
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"Ron Reagan delivered a eulogy that castigated politicians who use religion "to gain political advantage," a comment that was being interpreted in Washington as a not-so-subtle slap at Mr. Bush."

Of -course- it was. Now, it -could- just as easily apply to politicians who cynically claim to be Catholic when they are ideologically completely the opposite, but there is little doubt of how such comments would be interpreted in Washington.

BTW, I'm not denying that what Ron Reagan -meant- was interpreted correctly... but only because I know his politics. Subtract foreknowledge of -that-, and the comment could just as easily apply to the other candidate. But hey... as we all know... 'fair and balanced' the Times ain't.

Qwinn


11 posted on 06/14/2004 11:00:51 PM PDT by Qwinn
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"But he never made the fatal mistake of so many politicians - wearing his faith on his sleeve to gain political advantage.

Funny the NYT is taking this remark so seriously now. I don't have any articles in front of me, but I'd bet this wasn't the tune they were singing 20 years ago.

12 posted on 06/14/2004 11:02:55 PM PDT by GATOR NAVY
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To: dc-zoo
The only thing that matters is how Nancy feels about supporting Bush/Cheney. Michael may have something to say about it on his radio show later on down the road.

There's a helluva lot more important things going on than what Nancy Reagan thinks. Maybe Bush/Cheney can consult Joan Quigley...

13 posted on 06/14/2004 11:03:05 PM PDT by Gunslingr3
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To: Qwinn

If you follow the play by play FR thread, the slam at President Bush was not missed among this audience.


14 posted on 06/14/2004 11:03:39 PM PDT by weegee (Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. ~~Ronald Reagan)
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Funny how the left tried painting those 12 years as "Reagan-Bush" and then tried to say that the election of George W. Bush and his administration choices would be even more "Reagan-Bush".

Yeah, GHWB was no Reagan.

15 posted on 06/14/2004 11:04:17 PM PDT by Gunslingr3
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To: StarFan; Dutchy; alisasny; BobFromNJ; BUNNY2003; Cacique; Clemenza; Coleus; cyborg; DKNY; ...
No mention of Michael Reagan ping!

Please FReepmail me if you want on or off my infrequent ‘miscellaneous’ ping list.

16 posted on 06/14/2004 11:06:37 PM PDT by nutmeg (God bless President Ronald Reagan)
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To: GATOR NAVY
Ronald Reagan may not have worn his faith on his sleeve to win political favor but he was a religious man. I watched the funeral with Ronald Reagan's minister of 20 years (as governor and president). President Bush is also a religious man.

Now then, there is a man who wears his political service and medals on his arm even though his disrespected those awards, the men who served with him, and contributed to the defeat by diminishing morale at home and abroad with LIES. We won't talk about Kerry at this time though. It is all about "Reagan-Bush".

17 posted on 06/14/2004 11:06:57 PM PDT by weegee (Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. ~~Ronald Reagan)
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To: weegee

Actually some dunderheads on said thread denied it was a slap.

Baffling, I thought FReepers were more astute.

I knew it was a slap the second I saw it spoken.


18 posted on 06/14/2004 11:08:27 PM PDT by wardaddy (This is it. We either win and prevail or we lose and get tossed into that dustbin W mentioned!)
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To: weegee

The only ones trying to make Bush into Reagan 2 are his enemies. Bush is NOT trying to claim the Reagan mantle. He has hardly mentioned Reagan in 4 years.


19 posted on 06/14/2004 11:09:11 PM PDT by Texasforever (When Kerry was asked what kind of tree he would like to be he answered…. Al Gore.)
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To: weegee

Oh, I'm sure it was. Like I said, given Ron Jr.'s politics, it follows. BUT, it's still true that the particular complaint would be just as valid against Kerry for being a faux Catholic in order to get votes.

We can be sure that if any charge were levied against Kerry, and it was in -any- way stretchable to apply to Bush as well, the Times wouldn't mention it at all unless they -did- make the stretch.

Qwinn


20 posted on 06/14/2004 11:09:49 PM PDT by Qwinn
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