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WE SPY :ROSENBERG CASE RESURFACES IN DOCUMENTARY
NY Post, via Front Page ^ | June 14, 2004

Posted on 06/14/2004 1:14:13 PM PDT by Cincinna

Edited on 06/14/2004 1:34:01 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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The romanticizing of communism and its "martyrs" like the Rosenbergs and Che Guevara is dangerous. The media loves this stuff .More from the Hate America Left.
1 posted on 06/14/2004 1:14:14 PM PDT by Cincinna
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To: Cincinna

Ive seen the ads on HBO and got the distinct impression that the Rosenbergs will be portrayed as innocent victims.

http://www.hbo.com/docs/programs/heir/


2 posted on 06/14/2004 1:17:18 PM PDT by cripplecreek (you tell em i'm commin.... and hells commin with me.)
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To: Cincinna
Reinventing History.

Not worth a look.

3 posted on 06/14/2004 1:18:40 PM PDT by theDentist (I've got a fever, and the only prescription is more cowbell !)
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To: Cincinna
Sorry, she was wrong yesterday, she's wrong now, and she'll be wrong ten years from now.

NSA decrypts of Russian cable traffic during and after World War II known as the VENONA documents prove that the Rosenbergs *were* guilty.

Game, set and match.

This information wasn't released until the mid-Nineties to conceal the fact that we had the capability to do this.

And if anybody tries to tell you that Alger Hiss didn't work for the KGB, they're correct. He worked for the GRU (Russian military intelligence.)

VENONA originals are available online, but be prepared: the NSA will "cookie" the heck out of your computer.

4 posted on 06/14/2004 1:20:32 PM PDT by George Smiley (It amazes me how easily John Kerry can straddle both sides of the fence for any given issue.)
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To: Cincinna
Alouette hands a delusional hardcore Jewish pinko his ass
5 posted on 06/14/2004 1:21:34 PM PDT by Alouette ("Your children like olive trees seated round your table." -- Psalm 128:3)
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To: theDentist

I may watch it just to see what exactly is being said. Of course anyone who watches it objectively and critically will realize that this is coming from a grandchild who wants to believe the best about her grandparents and believe they were victims. Anyone wanting a true understanding of the facts of their case would have to look at a less biased source.


6 posted on 06/14/2004 1:21:54 PM PDT by susiek
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To: Cincinna

That is why I no longer have HBO


7 posted on 06/14/2004 1:22:11 PM PDT by steplock (http://www.gohotsprings.com)
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To: Cincinna

Typical liberal garbage history. My AP US History textbook in high school concluded the passage on the Rosenbergs by saying that "they went to the chair protesting their innocence" - a nifty little bit of liberal wordsmithery, ceding their guilt while maintining an air of uncertainty. Trash!


8 posted on 06/14/2004 1:22:14 PM PDT by ICX (Freedom of speech isn't working out so well for liberals now that someone else has the mic. - AC)
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To: cripplecreek

I saw one of the sons hawking a book on C-Span a while back. He admitted they might be guilty...but "guilty of what?" he questioned. He considered them patriotic, not traiters.

What is frightening is that there is a whole new generation of hate Americ leftists who have not learned the lessons of history.

They have now turned their guns on Bush/Cheney.

I find David Horowitz' http://www.frontpagemag.com to be a great source of info on this topic.


9 posted on 06/14/2004 1:23:01 PM PDT by Cincinna (Beware HILLARY and her HINO)
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To: Cincinna

Even the Russians said the Rosenbergs were spies ... and heroes to them!

This is just more evidence of the liberal mindset, "if we don't admit it, then it's not true."


10 posted on 06/14/2004 1:24:06 PM PDT by Mike K
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To: Cincinna
For the left, it has long been an article of faith that two wholly innocent radicals were framed and executed solely because of their politics.

BULLSH!T!

Thanks to the NSA we have -- and have had for more than fifty years -- the frickin' KGB payroll records that PROVE that the Rosenbergs were absolutely and unquestionably guilty!

THAT'S GUILT! GUILTY, GUILTY, GUILTY!

11 posted on 06/14/2004 1:25:26 PM PDT by Flatus I. Maximus (Get 'em by the b@lls and their hearts and minds will follow.)
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OK. Let us know what you think. I saw something similar to this on the History Channel a month or so ago, and they detailed all the friends/relatives/associates who suddenly decided to live in another country once they were arrested, often leaving much behins, and in 1 case, in the middle of a meal.


12 posted on 06/14/2004 1:25:56 PM PDT by theDentist (I've got a fever, and the only prescription is more cowbell !)
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To: Flatus I. Maximus
Read it all in the first few chapters here....


13 posted on 06/14/2004 1:28:31 PM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Cincinna
There is a key lesson in this. Even 50 years later, there are naive lefties who can be persuaded/comvinced that these commie traitors were no out to destroy the US.

That is why the constant blather of Willie and his White House sewer dwellers must not go unopposed. Wille has his minions employed in the already left wing media and they lie for him every day. We must always oppose efforts by Willie to lie, yet again, to make his legacy appear to be other than sewage.

And, this is the point in the constant Bush bashing. It is not Bush who's the object, it is trying to make Willie look better by claiming that Bush is almost as bad. Willie was as guilty as the Rosenbergs. He spent 63 days in Moscow after being thrown out of Oxford for raping another student. During those 63 days, he became a Soviet spy and would have done even greater damage to our country as a mole had not Reagan already destroyed Soviet communism. Some day, a Russian colonel who guards the movie film taken during Willie's indoctrination (and, probably that other other leaders who stopped in Russia to play) will sell them on the open market and we will know the truth about Willie as we now know the truth about Julius and Ethel.

14 posted on 06/14/2004 1:32:25 PM PDT by Tacis (,)
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He considered them patriotic, not traiters.

They were very patriotic. The only problem was that their love and loyalty was to the greatest mass murderer in human history and they would do anything, including giving their lives, to destroy his opponents.

It's The United States that the Rosenburg's hated and hoped to destroy. They were sad and pathetic individuals.

15 posted on 06/14/2004 1:33:56 PM PDT by Ditto ( No trees were killed in sending this message, but billions of electrons were inconvenienced.)
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To: Alouette

HI Alouette,
What is the address of your site?
I never heard of the guy you posted about, but add him to the list of traitors and communists.
What shocks me is that so many Jewish people on the left today don't take into account the morphing of anti-Zionism into classic anti-Semitism, so well documented by David Horowitz.
Kindest regards,
Cincinna


16 posted on 06/14/2004 1:36:13 PM PDT by Cincinna (Beware HILLARY and her HINO)
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To: Tacis

This is an interesting theory. Is there any documentation available?


17 posted on 06/14/2004 1:38:24 PM PDT by Cincinna (Beware HILLARY and her HINO)
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To: Cincinna
Typical leftist all-or-nothingism. They could actually make a case for Ethel. Both J. Edgar Hoover and Robert Lamphere (one of the key agents in VENONA, the interecepts program that proved Julius's guilt) did not believe she did anything to deserve execution. But that doesn't fit with their ideology, so.....

-Eric

18 posted on 06/14/2004 1:38:29 PM PDT by E Rocc (Republicans believe every day is the 4th of July, but Democrats believe every day is April 15.)
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To: Puppage; Cincinna
Or you can cut right to the source:
NSA
NSA VENONA index
CIA VENONA Index
The FreeRepublic Venona Project Homepage

And there are a couple gazillion more links on google

19 posted on 06/14/2004 1:39:06 PM PDT by Flatus I. Maximus (Get 'em by the b@lls and their hearts and minds will follow.)
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To: Tacis

Where does this information come from?


20 posted on 06/14/2004 1:40:18 PM PDT by Taylor42
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