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Shooting at McDonald's
The Selma Times Journal ^ | 6/13/04 | Steven Jones/John Gullion

Posted on 06/13/2004 5:42:29 PM PDT by doubleA

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To: AQGeiger
"He was at a birthday party for his son," Police Chief Robert Green said. "The victim he shot was his girlfriend's sister. Apparently they'd been feuding for some time."

And I'm sure the relationships are even more tangled than that. (Perhaps the girl fiend's sister (who is pregnant) is bearing the child of the guy. Or, perhaps the pregnant sister is the mom of the son, and now the guy is dating her sister. Or perhaps the second cousin twice removed is the mother of the guy's son ....).

But of course the shooting has nothing to do with commitment, integrity, morals or just plain good manners - it's the gun!
41 posted on 06/13/2004 10:04:48 PM PDT by geopyg (Peace..................through decisive and ultimate VICTORY. (Democracy, whiskey, sexy))
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To: epow; Cultural Jihad; PAR35
His point is, well over 50% of the violent crime in this country is committed by members of an ethnic minority which constitutes 13% of the population.

The name quoted was the victim here, not the shooter. And actually, in Selma Alabama, the black population is 70.1 % of the population.

But I don't think that was his point. It's just a guess, but I think it is as CJ said. To dismiss it as unimportant or not applicable because it wasn't anybody that looked like him. I assure you, laws written by this silly mayor and those like him certainly will be applicable.

The cutesy comments about whether race is mentioned in crime articles, or whether pictures are shown, and winking and nodding to each other about what you think you are so smart to figure out, is small minded and crass, and I reject associating myself with that. As a gun owner I see this kind of stunt to be a great risk to our guns if we ~don't~ play this right, if we ~don't~ call for the same justice here, if we ~don't~ call for all people to fight for their right to defend themselves in McDonalds or anywhere. It should also serve as a warning about getting into passionate feuds.

Reacting to it like we are fringe racists is death to our political voice. I'm not in the same room as that.

42 posted on 06/13/2004 10:20:34 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog (farewell to a great president.)
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To: doubleA

"We've got to get these guns off the streets," he said." Whatever it takes! Whatever it takes! It's for the children, he screeched.


43 posted on 06/13/2004 10:29:52 PM PDT by Unknowing (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country.)
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To: HairOfTheDog
I'm not in the same room as that.

No you aren't, you seem to be in the denial room. If we don't admit that facts are facts how will the problem ever be solved?

The responsible members of the minority community are more realistic about the situation than are people like yourself. They don't like the idea of being shot by a drug dealing "homey" any more than white people do.

44 posted on 06/13/2004 10:41:50 PM PDT by epow
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To: epow
No you aren't, you seem to be in the denial room.

HA! (how corny is that?) Sorry you didn't have the attention span to get the actual point of my post. Good night.

45 posted on 06/13/2004 10:48:54 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog (farewell to a great president.)
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To: dbwz
The citizen was not claiming that assaulting adults is okay. It is a perfectly natural and human emotion to express relief that an innocent baby was not harmed by some crazed gunman whose actions could have maimed or killed it by inches, and saying so is not an endorsement of others harming adults.
46 posted on 06/13/2004 10:59:23 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: The_Media_never_lie
Saw some brothers holding that way in the movie "Ladykillers" recently.

I saw some brothers doing exactly the same thing, a couple of white guys.

47 posted on 06/13/2004 11:05:09 PM PDT by usadave
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To: epow
No you aren't, you seem to be in the denial room.

LOL! And LOL!

48 posted on 06/13/2004 11:09:13 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: PoorMuttly; *bang_list

Trouble maker ......tis AWB season ...Fa La La la Laaa......La La La Laaaaaa.......:o)

Stay safe !


49 posted on 06/13/2004 11:10:30 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: doubleA
I've attempted to soften the racial overtones of the article:

Selma police arrested Lorenzo Oliver "Skippy" Walker Saturday, shortly after he allegedly ended his son's birthday party with a hail of bullets.

The shooter was outside the Highland Avenue McDonald's and began firing at Latoya Gwyneth "Buffy" Powell, after the two had left the restaurant while arguing.

50 posted on 06/13/2004 11:22:24 PM PDT by usadave
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To: HairOfTheDog
Sorry you didn't have the attention span to get the actual point of my post.

I got your point, I just disagree with it. Racial bigotry is a despicable thing, but that doesn't mean we should overlook lawless behavior in a mistaken effort to somehow compensate for what happened in the past by ignoring the truth about what is happening in the present.

The illegal use of guns by criminals of all races does more damage to our right to keep and bear arms than almost anything else because it causes a frightened population to want the false security of a gun-free society. As long as we pretend not to notice the predominate factor in our high crime rate, i.e., the inordinately high percentage of minority youth involved in violent crime, we will never make much progress at reducing that rate. And unless we get it under control the hue and cry for more gun laws wil only grow louder.

Maybe I'm a bit too quick to react to posts that IMO are designed primarily to show off the lack of bias and the open mindedness of the poster, but I have had it up to here with such PC nonsense. Facing reality is not racism.

51 posted on 06/13/2004 11:24:24 PM PDT by epow
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To: usadave; Admin Moderator

Needless to say, your attempt at "softening the racial overtones" just ended up highlighting them. Was that your goal?


52 posted on 06/13/2004 11:24:43 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: epow

You haven't shown how the race of the victim, or the perpetrator, is an issue at all in this story or in the wider debate on gun control, the Second Amendment, or public safety.


53 posted on 06/13/2004 11:27:04 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: usadave
Now that's MUCH better!

Finally, a true and PC account comes out of who was really involved in that shooting incident. You're a cinch for a Pulitzer for clearing that up.

54 posted on 06/13/2004 11:45:41 PM PDT by epow
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To: Cultural Jihad
You haven't shown why a post castigating a poster for mentioning the race of the shooter and his victim was anything other than a gratuitous display of self-rightous indignation intended to impress the forum with the poster's sensitivity to racial inferences. Judging by some other comments I have seen I would say the forum was somewhat less than impressed.

If you two want to continue berating me, knock yourself out, I'm going to bed.

55 posted on 06/14/2004 12:02:42 AM PDT by epow
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To: doubleA

one must not forget that the reason walker pulled the gun which by right he could possess, is because he was relatively certain that no one else would be armed.

if affronted with a society that was most likely armed and aware of his violent nature represented by the fact that he was arguing with a pregnant woman in public, he most likely would have been subdued by numerous manly men capable of hitting a target and eliminating senseless statements by a grandstanding mayor.

teeman

there is only one race, human, different ethnicities and characteristics, but only one race. accept it and embrace it, and in the immortal words of petey green..."hate the hate"


56 posted on 06/14/2004 5:25:14 AM PDT by teeman8r
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To: Cultural Jihad

You haven't shown how the race of the victim, or the perpetrator, is an issue at all in this story or in the wider debate on gun control, the Second Amendment, or public safety.



You haven't heard folks in that debate bemoaning "blacks victimized by gun violence"?


57 posted on 06/14/2004 6:51:53 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Your Friendly Freeper Patent Attorney)
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To: HairOfTheDog
And your point is?

If a disgruntled factory worker or office worker takes a gun and shoots the boss and a half dozen co-workers, it is usually a middle aged white guy. If someone shoots up a child's birthday party while holding the gun sideways, it is probably a rap music fan. If someone blows up a plane, bus or shopping mall full of strangers, it is probably an adherent of a specific religion.

You can choose to ignore patterns (that would be the politically correct thing to do) or you can make note of them.

58 posted on 06/14/2004 11:38:50 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: hoosierboy

BIRDMAN SIGHTS!!!! Now the mayor of Selma will have to call the Feds and have a special investigation like the idiots in another city did when they saw this "joke" web-site. They thought it was real.


59 posted on 06/14/2004 11:43:17 AM PDT by Lockbar
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To: doubleA

Every time I've eaten at McDonald's, I've been tempted to shoot the cooks.


60 posted on 06/14/2004 11:45:23 AM PDT by Sloth (We cannot defeat foreign enemies of the Constitution if we yield to the domestic ones.)
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