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The good that Reagan did for black America
San Diego Tribune ^ | 6.11.04 | Joseph Perkins

Posted on 06/13/2004 12:15:35 PM PDT by ambrose

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Now this is all from memory, as for most of RR governorship 1967-1975 I was in my formative yrs, but I do remember that because it caused quite a stir in LA, I also believe that it 's Caddy driving welfare queens. I do know that RR did cut welfare and that in and of it self caused problems, but this being Cal what else is new, NO I don't believe RR was A racist at all.All the Personal attacks did become far worse douing both of the presidental elections. especally after RR wiped "Gopher" Mondale's butt.
21 posted on 06/13/2004 6:28:02 PM PDT by markman46
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How much of that middle-class, upper mobility was due to unqualified people getting admitted to elite universities and grad schools and/or getting prime jobs based solely on the color of their skin?

Note that in Thomas Sowell's autobiography, Sowell said he thought that Reagan had much to offer black Americans, but regretted that the man was wholly unable to reach them. And Sowell wasn't just saying that blacks wouldn't listen to Reagan. He found Reagan lost, when it came to connecting with blacks.

22 posted on 06/13/2004 7:39:10 PM PDT by mrustow
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I find it amusing that so many conservatives simply refuse to note one key statistic, the black poverty rate. They'll cite the absolute numbers of blacks who entered the middle class (ignoring the fact that the total number of blacks ALSO rose in that period) or America's overall poverty rate. They do this because it undermines their case, as Reagan's record for blacks is mixed. Fact is, the black poverty rate was stagnant for over two decades until the mid-1990s under President Clinton and a Republican Congress (when the black poverty rate went from 35% to an all-time low of 21%). While Reagan wasn't as bad as leftists try to portray, he also wanted a messiah for black folks as conservatives claim either.

Reagan gets big props from me for his Cold War activities (man, have I had to defend him this week), bringing democracy back to Grenada, black entrepreneurship rise, signing a Voting Rights Act extension, rise in black high school and college rates, bringing the military back from liberal hell, and overall returning optimism to America.

However, I can't forgive Reagan for starting his 1980 campaign in Philadelphia, Mississippi (where 3 civil rights workers were killed in the 1960s) talking about "states' rights," how he fought (and only under massive pressure signed) the Dr. King holiday, tried to undermine the Voting Rights Act and the Civil Rights Commission. And his support for South Africa's apartheid regime and against pro-democracy activists (go-fast on anti-communism in Europe but go-slow on freedom for South African blacks?) got my gourd even as a teenager.


23 posted on 06/13/2004 9:31:37 PM PDT by rarebird
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One last thing. Not stopping the massive drug flow into urban communities is another critique that I have of Reagan. People are responsible for what they imbibe, but how about also stemming the flow? It became a quasi-war zone.


24 posted on 06/13/2004 9:34:08 PM PDT by rarebird
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Big article in today's Tennessean about Reagan forgiving a $20+M debt for Meharry College of Medicine in Nashville because he saw the good that could come from it; Reagan was much farther from the edge of division than Clinton, Carter or Gore will ever be for he owed them nothing and feared them not.


25 posted on 06/13/2004 9:41:03 PM PDT by Old Professer (lust; pure, visceral groin-grinding, sweat-popping, heart-pounding staccato bursts of shooting stars)
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You're very wrong; you must read more.


26 posted on 06/13/2004 9:42:27 PM PDT by Old Professer (lust; pure, visceral groin-grinding, sweat-popping, heart-pounding staccato bursts of shooting stars)
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You're very wrong; you must read more.

If you were being logical, you would be claiming that the black middle class had not benefited from affirmative action, a claim that is absurd on its face. (You can't be claiming that I "need to read" more re Sowell. If you don't like what he said, you need to criticize him, not me.) But you're not being logical; you're being stupid and vindictive, in carrying a disagreement over from another thread that had nothing to do with this. Don't be so petty, cowardly, and dishonest.

27 posted on 06/13/2004 9:48:34 PM PDT by mrustow
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I am very candid; to the point of rudeness; in your case, I have been patient. Sometimes, I hate myself.


28 posted on 06/13/2004 10:10:14 PM PDT by Old Professer (lust; pure, visceral groin-grinding, sweat-popping, heart-pounding staccato bursts of shooting stars)
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To: rarebird

You speak the truth, and until the republican party understands that there are issues, it will always be seen as non-inclusive.
You forgot to mention the dinner party where he forgot the face and name of the only black person working in his administration. When he approached his staff member, he said "glad to meet you mr. mayor", but this was no mayor, it was his only black staff member at the time. Doesn't sit well. Makes it appear that this guy was a token and had no real purpose except to be a person of color.
I guess That is why of all the things that are said about GW, at least he knows and communicates with his staff and he picked people that are of color yet very well credentialed. And I like him for that. I would rather no one be there if the person is not qualified or is only there for a token.


29 posted on 06/15/2004 11:29:38 AM PDT by rave123
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bttt


30 posted on 06/22/2004 3:05:01 PM PDT by votelife ("Going to war without France is like going deer hunting without your accordian." Don Rumsfeld)
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