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"How would Reagan end the Muslim madness? "
Jewish World Review ^ | 6/10/04 | Gal Luft

Posted on 06/12/2004 7:28:55 PM PDT by redrock

President Reagan's death brought to the fore his outstanding accomplishment of ending the Cold War. Like American presidents before him he led the U.S. in the charge against the "evil empire" by forging alliances and sending troops to remote theaters at high cost in blood and treasury. What makes Reagan's vision for victory particularly remarkable is that it stemmed from the belief in the power of technology as both a force multiplier and a game changer.

For the three and a half decades that preceded Reagan's presidency, Americans lived in the ominous shadow of a thermonuclear war that threatened to bring destruction to the planet. Two years into his first term, Reagan invited some of America's leading scientists to "give us the means of rendering these nuclear weapons impotent and obsolete." The result was a radical decision to develop a new system, which became known as "Star Wars," to reduce the threat of nuclear missiles by destroying them from space. The decision was met with a mixture skepticism and ridicule. Critics pointed to the technological barriers and the huge costs involved. But Reagan did not falter and insisted on pursuing the project. His gambit worked. The Soviets, already burdened by poor economy, proposed to eliminate all nuclear weapons over 15 years, contingent on the U.S backing off the project. Reagan declined and within a year the two superpowers began negotiations toward nuclear disarmament and permanent peace.

Thus ended the Cold War.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: baloney; conservokumbaya; forgotlebanon; muslims; nicetrypat; paleoblather; reagan; sillygal; totalbs; totalitarians; victory; waronterror; yeahright
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To: John Lenin

"Sorry, I don't believe in genocide and it's not necessary anyways."

Well, I do believe in genocide - at least to the extent as do my enemies.


41 posted on 06/12/2004 9:22:04 PM PDT by NCPAC ("Thou shalt not speak ill of a fellow Republican." - Ronald Reagan)
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To: John Lenin
"It's Arab leadership that is the problem."

What "leadership"??

And quite frankly, the evidence suggests the Arab gene pool appears to be permanantly defective.

42 posted on 06/12/2004 9:22:13 PM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: F16Fighter

Have faith in the plan, I do.


43 posted on 06/12/2004 9:26:46 PM PDT by John Lenin (Don't worry about the horse being blind, just load up the wagon)
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To: redrock

It's an excellent question to raise, but I don't think the answer is as stated.

I think Reagan would have done something very simlar to what we did: Invade Afghanistan and try to establish democracy there, and then do the same to Iraq. The reason is that he would believe that the example of a free society would bleed over to other middle eastern states. This is the same strategy W is doing, and I see it as likely to succeed long-term. It's entirely consistent with Reagan's idealism, whereas focusing on foreign oil and national borders is not.

D


44 posted on 06/12/2004 9:36:16 PM PDT by daviddennis (;)
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To: NCPAC

The Gaza plan worked, give it time to sinkin, no one walks into a fire pit knowingly.


45 posted on 06/12/2004 9:43:58 PM PDT by John Lenin (Don't worry about the horse being blind, just load up the wagon)
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To: ovrtaxt

The problem is Islam itself. They want us dead, regardless of our oil consumption. It's akin to saying that worldwide muslim violence is all because of Israel.

I couldn't agree more.


46 posted on 06/12/2004 9:59:57 PM PDT by ETERNAL WARMING (He is faithful!)
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To: sinkspur
Does the United States need to end it's dependence on oil for energy???

If it does...can that change come about thru private financial enterprise or does the United States Government need to be the one to invest in bringing about that change???

redrock

47 posted on 06/12/2004 10:08:00 PM PDT by redrock ("Better a Shack in Heaven....than a Mansion in Hell"---My Grandma)
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To: redrock
Does the United States need to end it's dependence on oil for energy???

You've got to be kidding!

This economy would sink like a stone without oil, and there's nothing on the horizon to replace it.

The answer to your question is, "it can't."

48 posted on 06/12/2004 10:11:41 PM PDT by sinkspur (There's no problem on the inside of a kid that the outside of a dog can't cure.)
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To: ovrtaxt
I agree...Islamic Fundalmentalism is the root cause....

But..it wouldn't hurt for us to stop paying for the bullets the terrorists use. And buying oil from the Arab Nations IS putting at least some money in the terrorists hands...

redrock

49 posted on 06/12/2004 10:11:51 PM PDT by redrock ("Better a Shack in Heaven....than a Mansion in Hell"---My Grandma)
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To: expatguy
NO...what I really love is Freedom.

...and trying to figure out ways to keep it.

redrock

50 posted on 06/12/2004 10:13:31 PM PDT by redrock ("Better a Shack in Heaven....than a Mansion in Hell"---My Grandma)
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To: redrock

China has a growing dependence on oil...and it would be cheaper if we went to a much higher priced energy alternative..Our economy suffers as China's prospers..and other nations are not about to use the higher priced source to appease the US.


51 posted on 06/12/2004 10:21:07 PM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security)
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To: sinkspur
At one time....knowledgeable people said that the idea of manned flight was impossible.

At one time....the smart people of the world said that putting men on the moon...was an impossible idea..fit only for dreamers.

At one time....the smart ones decided that a former "B" movie actor could NEVER make it in politics.

At one time...all the smart money was on the Soviet Empire lasting forever.

And now sinkspur....comes along and says that oil is the ONLY way.

Thanks...but I'll put my money on this Nation (but only if it really wants to) somehow figuring it out.

Thanks,

redrock

52 posted on 06/12/2004 10:21:21 PM PDT by redrock ("Better a Shack in Heaven....than a Mansion in Hell"---My Grandma)
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To: redrock

What say you about my posts? I didn't say developing another energy source would be impossible....only that it would not deprive the ME of money, as other nations use oil and the dependence grows as their economy grows.


53 posted on 06/12/2004 10:25:24 PM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security)
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To: redrock
And now sinkspur....comes along and says that oil is the ONLY way.

Thanks...but I'll put my money on this Nation (but only if it really wants to) somehow figuring it out.

Oh, I'm sure somebody will eventually "figure it out," but not while oil is relatively cheap, and there's no alternative to it for the majority of energy applications.

It's about the economics, redrock. All the red-white-and-blue invocations don't mean a damned thing if whatever replaces oil isn't viable, economically.

54 posted on 06/12/2004 10:25:34 PM PDT by sinkspur (There's no problem on the inside of a kid that the outside of a dog can't cure.)
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To: joesnuffy
Reagan was a major person....I don't like Bush,,or his father..I am constantly offended by Bush referring to Islam as "a religion of peace".Can anyone out there imagine Reagan referring to communism as a "a governmental system of peace ?" I cant..the man had too much integrity.I know that this will offend many out there but I dislike the Democrats much worse.regards
55 posted on 06/12/2004 10:27:13 PM PDT by dobberkcd
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To: MEG33
True...it wouldn't deprive the ME of money..since,as you say, the rest of the world will gladly send them money.

But....I WOULD like it if WE didn't send them money.

redrock

56 posted on 06/12/2004 10:31:22 PM PDT by redrock ("Better a Shack in Heaven....than a Mansion in Hell"---My Grandma)
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To: nutmeg

bttt


57 posted on 06/12/2004 10:32:54 PM PDT by nutmeg (God bless President Ronald Reagan)
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To: sinkspur
It isn't about 'red,white and blue invocations'.

But it IS a hard fact...this Nation figures things out.

A national effort to change our dependence on oil would have it turned around fairly fast.

Part of the problem tho is that conservatives have this nasty reaction when mentioning ending our dependence on oil since so many from the left have wanted us to do so.

redrock

58 posted on 06/12/2004 10:35:27 PM PDT by redrock ("Better a Shack in Heaven....than a Mansion in Hell"---My Grandma)
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To: dobberkcd
Reagan was a major person....I don't like Bush,,or his father..I am constantly offended by Bush referring to Islam as "a religion of peace".Can anyone out there imagine Reagan referring to communism as a "a governmental system of peace ?" I cant..the man had too much integrity

You imagine that Reagan would buy into your idea that Islam is inherently evil, versus Bush's approach, that Islam is not evil, but radical offshoots of it are.

Islam is actually a very moderate religion that can be morphed (by some adherents) into a violent ideology.

Given that Reagan shrank from confronting radical Muslims when 240 Marines were killed in Lebanon, I'd lay my chips on the man leading us in the current fight.

Heroes are men of their time, and GWB (even though you dislike him) is the only leader with the guts to confront terrorism.

59 posted on 06/12/2004 10:37:18 PM PDT by sinkspur (There's no problem on the inside of a kid that the outside of a dog can't cure.)
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To: redrock
How would Reagan end the Muslim madness?

We would have to hope with the same tenacity of George W. Bush.

60 posted on 06/12/2004 10:38:07 PM PDT by BJungNan
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