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Palestinian Romeo and Julet Saved [by Israeli soldiers]
upi via bloomberg no url | 6/1/4

Posted on 06/11/2004 9:40:48 AM PDT by NativeNewYorker

TEL AVIV, Israel, June 11 (UPI) -- A Palestinian couple frustrated over their inability to marry approached Israeli lines hoping to be shot together, it was reported Friday.

Soldiers suspected the couple were not militants and held their fire, the Yediot Aharonot newspaper said on its Web site.

The couple in their late 20s have been friends for six years and upon questioning, told officials they could not marry because of a dispute between their families, a military source told United Press International. They decided suicide was their only option.

They approached the Kfar Darom settlement early Wednesday. The woman dropped her bag when soldiers approached and hugged the man when soldiers pointed their guns at them. Soldiers asked the woman to move aside so they could search the man, but she would not let go of him until shots were fired in the air.

After searching and questioning the pair, the army released them, confident they were not affiliated with any terrorist organizations.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: islamophobia; religionofpeace; zionist
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To: malakhi

> How is this different from Christians who say "that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow"?

It's not. However, the simple fact is... as a non-Christian, I have very little to fear from the hundreds of millions of Xtians around me; the likelihood of being stoned to death, shot, burned or otherwise done away with for my heretical beliefs is pretty minimal. However, were I to find myself in a Muslim land...


201 posted on 06/11/2004 1:08:38 PM PDT by orionblamblam
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To: orionblamblam
Namecalling of that type, however, seems *seriously* out of place here. Rise above it... don't be a DUer.

Welcome to Free Republic.
One of the characteristics of free debate is the ablility to state facts without fear of the context police, the new arrivals, flush with PC and shamelessly absolutist, who seem to be the loudest.

Please excuse my not embracing your attempt at moral smuggness.
Now if you could address the central issue of my statement, I might consider your opinion, ignorant as it is, of some potential value.

202 posted on 06/11/2004 1:08:47 PM PDT by Publius6961 (I don't do diplomacy either.)
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To: Publius6961

> Please excuse my not embracing your attempt at moral smuggness.

It's hardly PC to ask for restraint against the use of racial epithets.


203 posted on 06/11/2004 1:11:23 PM PDT by orionblamblam
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To: E Rocc
I don't know about the various Protestant faiths, but the Roman Catholic Church officially recognizes Muslims as worshipping the same God they do.

As I said to blackmuslim, it's not about the translations, it's about the Character.

Allah is not just the word "god" translated into Arabic. Allah has a very different character than the One who revealed Himself to Abraham and Moses, and a very different character than the One who revealed Himself in Jesus.

They can not be different names for the same being.

Shalom.

204 posted on 06/11/2004 1:11:25 PM PDT by ArGee (After 517, the abolition of man is complete)
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To: malakhi
Not much but Christians don't usually do that with a bomb,

THEY had a reformation.

Quite frankly, zealots of either stripe give me gas.

Not into the circular logic required by cults.

Well except for the cult of Demeter and the mysteries of
Eleusis but it's against the rules for me to describe them.

I can tell you this, DON'T eat pomegranates, DO drink the Kykeon! Become EPOPTES!

Know the "disparity between seeing and hearing" described by Aristidies the Rhetor.

Oh sorry didn't mean to proselytize
205 posted on 06/11/2004 1:11:56 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Ahem, in the second person thrice perfect that should
be "Slud....".


206 posted on 06/11/2004 1:14:06 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Yehuda

I like your blogs.


208 posted on 06/11/2004 1:15:39 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: blackmuslim

"these things are not allowed in islam" Ahem! Have you ever heard of dhimmitude? that most certainly condones slavery, murder and forced conversion by the sword. What version of Islam do you prescribe to?


209 posted on 06/11/2004 1:15:59 PM PDT by priceofreedom (On A Roadmap To Hell)
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To: orionblamblam
However, the simple fact is... as a non-Christian, I have very little to fear from the hundreds of millions of Xtians around me; the likelihood of being stoned to death, shot, burned or otherwise done away with for my heretical beliefs is pretty minimal.

In the present day, yes. IMO, the Muslim world needs a healthy dose of Enlightenment rationalism.

210 posted on 06/11/2004 1:17:29 PM PDT by malakhi
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To: blackmuslim
The Islamic World Remains Silent as Terrorists Claim Divine Sanction

To this I would add that it is disturbing to witness those who worship the God of Abraham [Christians, Jews, Muslims] arguing with each other about who is worshipping the One True God. Finite beings cannot possibly make definitive statements about the nature of the infinite. Further:

...It is entirely possible that the One may appear to us in a form(s) that a particular group [at a particular period of time and place in history] would be able to understand and accept as Divine. In other words, it is unlikely that ten thousand years ago in a central African jungle the Almighty appeared to the people there as is depicted in a Gothic stained glass panel...

I am so glad that my religion did not originate in the Middle East. We are not burdened to argue over writings scribbled by other men that have been ascribed with Divine Sanction. Instead the scripture is written anew each day in every life [which is a direct product of the Almighty]. There is only one set of rules and we are left to discover them by making our own mistakes or by learning from those of others.

Dogma is blasphemy because it invests humans with Divine Authority and Knowledge.

211 posted on 06/11/2004 1:20:10 PM PDT by walford (http://utopia-unmasked.us)
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To: malakhi

> In the present day, yes.

Yes. Five hundred years ago, even a hundred in a few places, Christians tended to be damned spooky

> IMO, the Muslim world needs a healthy dose of Enlightenment rationalism.

It does, and damend soon. But how that can come about is anybodies guess. I've always suspected that Christianity was "easily* reformed because it had a strict heirarchy that could be directly rebelled against, and once that was done, a deeper reformation was possible. But Islam is broekn into several major branches, none with the same sort of strict heirarchy as the Catholic Church. There is no Islamo-Pope, for example. So, instead of complaining about the wrongs of the heirarchy, far, far away... Muslims will have to complain about the wrongs of their fellow Muslims. Those who have done this have seen that it's career-limiting.


213 posted on 06/11/2004 1:24:43 PM PDT by orionblamblam
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To: Yehuda

Keep trying, the war is just beginning.


214 posted on 06/11/2004 1:26:21 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: orionblamblam

Those who have done this have seen that it's career-limiting.

Not to mention life threatening.


215 posted on 06/11/2004 1:27:43 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: tet68

This was not called execution.

It was called retirement.


218 posted on 06/11/2004 1:31:46 PM PDT by orionblamblam
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To: blackmuslim

"there is only one GOD my friend."

This is precisely my point...Hashem and no other!!!

"must be slow in the trailor park right now."

Ya, but we have plenty of parking space for your Camel so come on in.


219 posted on 06/11/2004 1:34:16 PM PDT by priceofreedom (On A Roadmap To Hell)
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