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To: MineralMan
Stay consistent MineralSlave.

First you say:

Part of any such scheme would be a method to detect vehicles that did not identify themselves. Again, a missing RFID plate would dispatch an officer.

This would neccesitate monitoring every car moving, all the time to work. Otherwise Mr. Officer can't magically appear when a vehicle is moving about without an RFID. But then you say:

there isn't enough computer power on the planet to track every car all the time, nor enough manpower on the planet to monitor it.

This is actually a more realistic statement but negates your original positive scenario of benevolent big bro being able to save your stolen Corvette after the thieves remove or jam the RFID.

So let's get down to reality here. Since Big Bro cannot, by your own deductive analysis, monitor every vehicle all of the time, what would this system really do?

Monitor specific people all of the time obviously.

But so long as you don't attract the 'masters' attention you'll escape a beating. Since you have stated you ALWAYS obey all the traffic rules you should escape their watchful gaze. But if you go to protests (as if a compliant fellow like you would!) they would know you attended. If you join certain clubs that a Liberal administration loathed your data points would start appearing all over computer monitored charts. Get enough cross-linking and suddenly you're a person of interest and get passed over to a real life analyst.

But not to worry, you obey all the laws right? Of course not. There are enough 'laws' already on the books that every person in this country has broken some even if inadvertently. Ignorance of the law is no defense, Bucky.

Get Hitlery Klinton in as El Presidente in 2008 and she's get her version of Janet Reno doing that rectal exam on ya' MineralSubject, even though you've been a real good boy.

Sucks don't it? But take comfort knowing only whackos with something to hide would oppose persistent monitoring.

29 posted on 06/10/2004 2:09:03 PM PDT by JOAT
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To: JOAT

"This would neccesitate monitoring every car moving, all the time to work. Otherwise Mr. Officer can't magically appear when a vehicle is moving about without an RFID. But then you say:"



Yes, every car would be noticed, but ignored unless something flagged the computer. For example, the car without a valid RFID plate would be noticed because it didn't have the plate.



But not to worry, you obey all the laws right? Of course not. There are enough 'laws' already on the books that every person in this country has broken some even if inadvertently.



Actually, I think I do manage to obey all the laws. Perhaps you'll give me an example of one I don't obey, or one I might have missed.

As for your attending protests question, I actually have done that many times in my life. I've seen my FBI files. Not one incident of my breaking the law is included in them, although the file was quite thick.

You seem to think I'm some little namby-pamby guy hiding out in my house. You couldn't be more wrong. But...when I do something, I make sure it's a legal thing to do. And if the cops say to disperse, I'm outa there. I'll be back another time.

If someone wants to come get me, I suppose they could cook something up, but they'd be wrong.

Having this RFID license plate thing is not going to bring on the police state. If there's going to be a police state, they won't need RFID license plates. Police states have never needed such things.

But, you see, I don't see a police state looming on the horizon. Maybe that's the difference between you and me.


30 posted on 06/10/2004 2:17:40 PM PDT by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: JOAT
Mineral Mans Freep Bio; speaks for itself.

Everything I need, or am willing, to say, I say in the threads. I will not reveal my identity on Free Republic, due to a certain element here, for the protection of myself and my family. I do not respond to FreepMail. If you want to discuss something with me, do it in public, please. I'm 58 years old, a resident of California, and a veteran of the USAF during the late 60s. I'm a web merchant, full-time. I speak Russian, Spanish, and French. My politics are eclectic. However, I expect every person to treat every other person with a certain degree of courtesy and respect, unless that person behaves in a dangerous, threatening, or discourteous manner. I am a gun owner, and an avid fisherman. You will also notice in my usual tagline that I am an atheist. I don't care what others believe, as long as they do not attempt to convert me. Such attempts are useless, annoying, and presumptuous. Believe as you will, and leave me to disbelieve as I will. A Note About Atheism Atheism is not a religion. It does not involve belief in any particular ideas or concepts. It is merely a disbelief in any sort of deity or other supernatural entities. For the atheist, such things simply are not believable. Atheism, in itself, is nothing more than that. There are no churches of atheism. There is no central doctrine of atheism. There are no principles of atheism. It is, simply, a disbelief in deities and other supernatural entities. Atheists, as a group, do not worship nature, themselves, evolution, or anything else. They simply disbelieve in deities and other supernatural entities. Atheists have no gods, but most don't mind if you do. Those who do mind if you worship a deity are simply wrong to do so. Atheists are libertarians, conservatives, liberals, communists, peaceful people and terrorists. They are, in short, just like everyone else. Please do not use the word "atheism" as a synonym for anything. Any time you do so, you are incorrect. Atheism is simply the description of not believing in deities and other superanatural entities. It has nothing to do with anything else on the planet.

35 posted on 06/10/2004 4:02:07 PM PDT by suijuris
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To: JOAT
Whenever the bootlickers show up, I like to drop this quote from Madison on them. It's one of my favorites:

"It is proper to take alarm at the first experiment on our liberties. We hold this prudent jealousy to be the first duty of citizens, and one of the noblest characteristics of the late Revolution. The freemen of America did not wait till usurped power had strengthened itself by exercise, and entangled the question in precedents. They saw all the consequences in the principle, and they avoided the consequences by denying the principle." James Madison, 1785

41 posted on 06/10/2004 9:04:46 PM PDT by Mulder (Those who would give up liberty for temporary security, deserve neither -- Ben Franklin)
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