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To: Your Nightmare

Please, cite one treatment that has been shown possible from embryonic stem cells. The only supposed treatment I know of is one for diabetes that took cloned mice, implanted them in a mother mouse, grew them until the *fetal* cells were developed, aborted the mice for harvest of pancreatic cells.

Great abuse of mothers as well as young of the species, as far as I'm concerned, and very expensive to try in humans. About a 100 oocytes (eggs) would be needed for one patient, costing $100,000 to $200,000, before the nuclear transfer and subsequent implantation, etc.
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=304108

I can see isolated islands full of slave women, kept as virgin oocyte donors and gestators.


77 posted on 06/10/2004 10:18:53 PM PDT by hocndoc (Choice is the # 1 killer in the US)
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To: hocndoc
Please, cite one treatment that has been shown possible from embryonic stem cells.

argumentum ad ignorantiam

You're assuming if I can't prove something true it must be false. You are also asking to show results from a research field in it's infancy. And you're ignoring the fact that research has been hampered by politics and lack of funding.

But still, there is plenty of research that shows treatment that might be "possible from embryonic stem cells." Go to PubMed and search on embryonic stem cells (you might notice all the foriegn sounding names of the researchers). You don't think all this research is being done because the researchers like playing with embryos, do you? They see the possiblity of treatment with embryonic stem cells.

Here's the story I posted in #59 if you had any say in it:

In December of 1967, a South African surgeon, Dr. Christiaan Barnard, transplanted the heart of a 23-year-old woman killed in a motor vehicle accident into the chest of a middle-aged man. He lived for eighteen days, until the powerful drugs used to suppress rejection weakened him and he died of pneumonia. All further research was ended.

91 posted on 06/11/2004 5:56:43 AM PDT by Your Nightmare
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