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Political Correctness at the WWII Memorial
e-mail | June 7, 2004 | A fellow activist

Posted on 06/08/2004 12:34:15 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2004 17:27:41 -0400
Subject: Fw: in the event you visit the WW II memorial sad to change history

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, June 07, 2004 12:40 PM
Subject: Fw: in the event you visit the WW II memorial sad to change history

Received this from a friend. Hard to believe this happened!!

-------Original Message-------
Subject: WWII - a date which will live in infamy

> To All,
>
> Forwarded by a cousin and even on Memorials we are doing editing. How
> sad that on a memorial to our WW II vets people have to try and change
> history.
>
> Dean
>
> Today I went to visit the new World War II Memorial in Washington, DC. I got
> an unexpected history lesson. Since I'm a baby boomer, I was one of the
> youngest in the crowd. Most were the age of my parents, veterans of "the greatest
> war" with their families. It was a beautiful day, and people were smiling and
> happy to be there. Hundreds of us milled around the memorial, reading the
> inspiring words of Ike and Truman that are engraved there.
>
>
>
> On the Pacific side of the memorial, a group of us gathered to read the words
> President Roosevelt used to announce the attack on Pearl Harbor: "Yesterday,
> December 7, 1941-- a date which will live in infamy-- the United States of
> America was suddenly and deliberately attacked." One woman read the words aloud:
> " With confidence in our armed forces, with the unbounding determination of
> our people, we will gain the inevitable triumph." But as she read, she was
> suddenly angry. "Wait a minute," she said. "They left out the end of the
quote. > They left out the most important part. Roosevelt said 'so help us God."
>
>
>
> "You're probably right," her husband said. "We're not supposed to say things
> like that now."
>
>
>
> "I know I'm right," she insisted. "I remember the speech." The two shook
> their heads sadly and walked away.
>
>
>
> Listening to their conversation, I thought to myself, "Well, it has been 50
> years. She's probably forgotten."
>
>
>
> But she was right.
>
>
>
> I went home and pulled out the book my book club is reading. It's "Flags of
> Our Fathers" by James Bradley. It's all about Iwo Jima. I haven't gotten too
> far in the book. It's tough to read because it's a graphic description of the
> battles in the Pacific.
>
>
>
> But right there it was on page 58. Roosevelt's speech to the nation. It
ends > "so help us God."
>
>
>
> The people who edited out that part of the speech when they engraved it on
> the memorial could have fooled me. I was born after the war. But they couldn't
> fool the people who were there. Roosevelt's words are engraved on their hearts.
>
>
>
> Send this around to your friends. People need to know before everyone forgets.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: dayofinfamy; god; government; pc; pearlharbor; roosevelt; secularism; sohelpusgod; wwiimemorial
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To: Askel5
I have no expectation of receiving any such largesse by the time I'm of retirement age.

Go and cry somewhere else you ungrateful wimp. Start an IRA.

61 posted on 06/08/2004 3:23:27 PM PDT by itsahoot (The lesser of two evils, is evil still...Alan Keyes)
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To: itsahoot

=== Go and cry somewhere else you ungrateful wimp.

I'm not crying, you ass. I have an IRA and take the maximum out for my 401k. Not that my faith in Funds some Ledger says I have is any greater than my faith in the Welfare State's ability to remain solvent.


And -- just for the record -- I don't see my grandparents thanking ME for the cut of my paycheck which currently is paying for their welfare state entitlements.

Get it straight, moron ... it's not that I'm looking to cash in as they have. I'd just like to have back what they pickpocketed from me in the first place.


62 posted on 06/08/2004 3:28:22 PM PDT by Askel5
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To: microgood

=== I just never had that experience with my interactions with their generation or their belief systems.

It's only where they yet idolize FDR or extol the "great deal" that is Medicare and such that I cringe, actually.

Talking with my grandfather the other day, he was counseling me as always to prepare for the future. And, visiting with my Dad's folks recently, I was impressed as always with the way my grandma still "makes do" and stretches every doller.

Lots to learn from that generation. It's just unfortunate that what appeared a saving grace to them has turned out to be a behemoth of a welfare state which will break our backs in two, you and I.


63 posted on 06/08/2004 3:37:18 PM PDT by Askel5
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Wow!


64 posted on 06/08/2004 3:39:48 PM PDT by Ciexyz ("FR, best viewed with a budgie on hand")
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To: Askel5
The memorial's all about "them" anyway. I doubt very seriously we're going to see the most Selfish Generation the world has ever seen (save for the Boomer children with which they saddled us, perhaps) rise up and complain that there wasn't enough room on the monument to include accolades to wimmen AND God.

They're too busy organizing the voting blocs necessary to maintain Bush's grand Medicare giveaway.

Askel, I'm a relative newcomer here. But do believe me when I say I hold your intellect in high regard, and admire your devotion I've seen in many of your older posts regarding the left and communism, of which, I've read many.

With all due respect to you...your claim is total BS and totally disrespectful.

That memorial isn't just about "THEM". It's about me to, although I'm only 36 years old.

You see, I'm the grandson and namesake of a man killed near the end of WW2, on Feburary 27, 1945 to be exact. He was an Army medic, and died doing his job during a German artillery barrage. He was buried in the American military cemetary, Margratten, Holland.

I have the flag which draped his coffin, along with his personal effects on him when he died.

He never lived to collect any of the government benefits that generation now enjoys. Matter of fact, the government couldn't even guarantee that his remains would be the ones in the box bearing his name, if my grandma had decided to have him returned.

He never saw his son's face. My dad never saw his dad's face.

I don't feel owed anything. I don't feel special. Many others are just like me and done without a dad or grandad.

Buried beside my grandpa are approx. eight thousand or so fellow soldiers that died over there, along with the tens of thousands buried all over Europe.

All the men that died in WW2 didn't receive the government benefits you claim the "Selfless Generation" does now.

They deserve the memorial, along with all of us who are their children and grandchildren.

65 posted on 06/08/2004 4:09:19 PM PDT by Vigilantcitizen
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To: Askel5
I'd just like to have back what they pickpocketed from me in the first place.

You must be a joy to your theiving parents.

Before your ungrateful generation created Nursing Homes, a parent could count on the family to take care of them when they got to feeble to care for themselves. And whether you care or not that day comes to all of us. I am sure you will do the honorable thing and just call Kevorkian for your older family members.

Not only are you a crybaby, you are despicable.

66 posted on 06/08/2004 4:58:25 PM PDT by itsahoot (The lesser of two evils, is evil still...Alan Keyes)
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To: Askel5; dirtboy
Remember when you, me, and dirtboy FReeped Lafayette Square?! Well, I had vodka drinks in that cooler I wuz holdin'!!

LOL...MUD

67 posted on 06/08/2004 5:56:29 PM PDT by Mudboy Slim (Rest in Peace, Dutch Reagan!!)
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To: drjimmy
It will be interesting to see how many Freepers actually pay attention to this, or blindly continue to use the original post as an excuse to bash the monument makers for being PC. I have a feeling we will be seeing this same e-mail pop up on FreeRepublic for years to come.

My thoughts exactly.

68 posted on 06/08/2004 6:34:52 PM PDT by Coop (Freedom isn't free)
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To: Coop
Senator McCain: Americans have not sacraficed.
69 posted on 06/08/2004 6:35:45 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (http://www.osurepublicans.com)
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To: LurkedLongEnough
think in his dedication speech President Bush used "the Almighty" in a speech in place of the word "God". He's keeping in mind that some people think that they themselves are the almighty I guess. We're going down the PC tubes.

So you're using one "maybe" example about the President who wears his faith on his sleeve and ends each speech with "God bless America" as an example of PC?

Curious...

70 posted on 06/08/2004 6:39:59 PM PDT by Coop (Freedom isn't free)
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To: Askel5
it's not that I'm looking to cash in as they have. I'd just like to have back what they pickpocketed from me in the first place.

LMAO! Oh, that's a good one. Yeah I'm keeping a running tally myself, just for amusement purposes. We both know we'll never see what we put into it.

71 posted on 06/08/2004 9:22:43 PM PDT by Bella_Bru (It's for the children = It takes a village)
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To: Mudboy Slim

Awesome! Great adaptation of one of my favorite songs. It seems your cannons still thunder. ;-)


72 posted on 06/08/2004 9:52:36 PM PDT by JamesWilson
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To: Phantom Lord

Political Correctness and the fear of bucking white guilt is insidious.

It even has a foothold on this forum sadly.


73 posted on 06/08/2004 9:56:14 PM PDT by wardaddy (This is it. We either win and prevail or we lose and get tossed into that dustbin W mentioned!)
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To: JamesWilson
Thank you, sir...glad you liked it.

FReegards...MUD

74 posted on 06/09/2004 4:51:10 AM PDT by Mudboy Slim (Rest in Peace, Dutch Reagan!!)
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To: Coop
To be brief, it's just a troubling example.

What one says isn't always necessarily the whole of what one thinks, though.

75 posted on 06/09/2004 5:54:27 AM PDT by LurkedLongEnough (Bush '04 --- in a F'n landslide.)
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To: Askel5

Do you think they DID step back down when the war was over? Not for very dern long, if at all. 50's television notwithstanding.


76 posted on 06/09/2004 2:27:10 PM PDT by johnb838 (When I hear "Allahu Akhbar" it means somebody is about to die.)
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To: johnb838

No I don't think they stepped back.

And we're only beginning to pay for their failure to man their posts where they were really needed: in the Home.


77 posted on 06/09/2004 3:09:38 PM PDT by Askel5
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To: timydnuc
If, as I suspect, it is not then there should be a write in campaign to the President himself to correct the monument.

Correct the monument how? By adding "so help us God" to the end of a sentence that did not end with "so help us God" in the original speech?
78 posted on 06/11/2004 12:10:46 PM PDT by Dimensio (Join the Monthly Internet Flash Mob: http://tinyurl.com/3xj9m)
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