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Lawmakers grill Ashcroft on memo justifying torture of terror suspects
AP via MSNBC ^ | June 08, 2004

Posted on 06/08/2004 11:25:27 AM PDT by cyncooper

WASHINGTON - Attorney General John Ashcroft said Tuesday he was not aware of any order by President Bush that would violate U.S. laws or treaties banning torture of military prisoners captured in Iraq or elsewhere in the war on terrorism.

“This administration rejects torture,” Ashcroft declared under tense questioning by members of the Senate Judiciary Committee

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Biden and Kennedy, etc., still on the trail of prisoner abuse.

Also from the article:

The attorney general said the policy memo on this issue would not be made available to the committee, however.

I heard Pete Williams report on this story. He said conceivably Congress could subpoena the memo and if it was not turned over Ashcroft could be found in contempt of Congress. He then said that is unlikely.

1 posted on 06/08/2004 11:25:28 AM PDT by cyncooper
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"...Congress could subpoena the memo and if it was not turned over Ashcroft could be found in contempt of Congress. He then said that is unlikely."

Which is unlikely; the subpoena, the refusal, or the contempt - or all 3? So many choices, so little time.


2 posted on 06/08/2004 11:29:57 AM PDT by familyofman (laying in the dark, where the shadows run from themselves)
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To: familyofman

The contempt of Congress step is unlikely.


3 posted on 06/08/2004 11:31:34 AM PDT by cyncooper
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To: cyncooper

A more accurate title might have been, "Democrat Senators Continue To Kick The Now All But Dead Abu Ghraib Prison Issue; Ayatollah Teddy and Brainless Biden Demanding To See Memos Congress Is Not Entitled To, Seeking To Nullify The Separation Of Powers Doctrine For Democrat Politicial Leverage".


4 posted on 06/08/2004 11:34:48 AM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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"The contempt of Congress step is unlikely."

Only in the event that subpoena and refusal don't occur. If it gets to a refusal the contempt would seem a logical next step. That leaves the possibility of a refusal at slim to none.


5 posted on 06/08/2004 11:36:44 AM PDT by familyofman (laying in the dark, where the shadows run from themselves)
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To: cyncooper

I saw some of this earlier today; the Rats just can't let go.

As an aside, Ashcroft said during testimony that his son is in active military, just returned from the Gulf and will be returning shortly.

Considering there are some freepers who complain "no one in the administration has anyone in the military..." - we should remember this.


6 posted on 06/08/2004 11:36:53 AM PDT by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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Congress needs to get back to it's job as per the US Constitution and let the Administration do it's job!!
DKK


7 posted on 06/08/2004 11:38:12 AM PDT by LifeTrek
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To: MHGinTN

Indeed.

Did you see at the MSNBC site? This headline is filed under the heading "Iraq Abuse Scandal". Then you can click on a "timeline" and the best part, "slideshow of abuse photos".

Oh, and an "Army report".


8 posted on 06/08/2004 11:38:13 AM PDT by cyncooper
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To: familyofman

If they were entitled to the memo he'd give it to them.

If they're not (and they evidently are not) then he's not in contempt by not giving it them.


9 posted on 06/08/2004 11:39:50 AM PDT by cyncooper
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As an aside, Ashcroft said during testimony that his son is in active military, just returned from the Gulf and will be returning shortly.

I heard that, too. I'm glad you saw some of this.

10 posted on 06/08/2004 11:41:37 AM PDT by cyncooper
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"slideshow of abuse photos"

AKA dem porn.

11 posted on 06/08/2004 11:47:18 AM PDT by EllaMinnow ("President Reagan has left us, but he has left us stronger and better." President George W. Bush)
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To: redlipstick
In the article Ted Kennedy follows the dem template I've noted in the past, and takes the opportunity to describe the content of said photos.

Notice the mixing of apples and oranges, again, that any policy about treatment of prisoners is being strained to be interpreted as condoning of the gross activities that went on with the rogue group.

Disgusting. I'm just glad I didn't have to hear Kennedy. Ick

12 posted on 06/08/2004 11:50:36 AM PDT by cyncooper
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You want torture, I'll give you torture!! Just try to sit in the presence of uber moralists, Kennedy and Biden, when they try to imitate honorable people, without smirking.
13 posted on 06/08/2004 11:55:25 AM PDT by blue-duncan
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I was going to write a pithy reply about Fat Teddy loving to beat a dead horse - then I got a visual of him rumming around Palm Beach with no pants on, and I'm laughing too hard to type.

Edited to add: "rumming" was supposed to be "running" but it seems to fit even better, so in it stays.


14 posted on 06/08/2004 11:56:43 AM PDT by EllaMinnow ("President Reagan has left us, but he has left us stronger and better." President George W. Bush)
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This is why the anchors are foaming: they can't blast this thru the funeral/commemoration coverage.

Seem most likely reason to you?

15 posted on 06/08/2004 11:58:42 AM PDT by txhurl (seconded: I love it when a plan comes together)
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To: cyncooper

Yeah, but let's not forget that there is more to all this than those photos...such as the death of Iraqi air force general Mowhoush when a military intel officer sat on his chest and suffocated him...

http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/news/8783141.htm?1c


16 posted on 06/08/2004 12:22:15 PM PDT by MaxPlus305
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17 posted on 06/08/2004 12:30:57 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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To: MaxPlus305

I'm not "forgetting". I'm not mixing up issues, either.


18 posted on 06/08/2004 1:02:34 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: redlipstick

Kennedy's private stash? or did Barney let him borrow his?


19 posted on 06/08/2004 1:08:48 PM PDT by snooker (Following Kerry is like lurching down a bumpy road to nowhere.)
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To: cyncooper

As much as I dislike the guy, I must admit that Biden made mincemeat out of Ashcroft. Biden's emotion was real -- nothing like the usual crocodile emotion that comes from the left. And his argument was quite logical: we enter into these non-torture pacts so that our boys stay safe. Period.


20 posted on 06/08/2004 1:14:19 PM PDT by pickemuphere
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